I have an HF port that if I limit the frame length to 32bits, it will go ahead a spray 3 or four frames worth with no ACKs in between defeating the purpose of my short frames. I can do this with maxframe=1 in BPQ (I think I am remembering that correctly). Chris KQ6UP-3 (now on 14.105 -1.7CF) -- Thanks, Chris Maness