[nos-bbs] JNOS / WINLINK / AX25

[Sky-aa6ax]

I will make an attempt. Thank you for your guidance.

The connection interaction will be different as the radio RMS does not accept name and password that way. I'll have to go on the frequency and experiment some more to see how it works out.

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Your question on WINLINK and Internet -- we are developing multiple ways we can "hop" outside the San Francisco Bay Area if there are localized Internet outages. WINLINK is the channel direct to California's state EOC, and is the only channel they actually support, so we are developing ways we can locally use packet and radio to reach a WINLINK RMS which can route the traffic beyond that. Although practically I understand the challenges, I'm not day-to-day involved on WINLINK infrastructure. I would say our local WINLINK node is in a very experimental condition, yet it's up 24/7 and it works, so it's easy to test.

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Our emcomm prep here has broadened greatly over the last two years. The San Francisco Bay Area has very broad and resilient Internet structure, and we are developing multiple amateur-radio-based channels to try to "hop" out of the area via radio in the event of an emergency. Although there could be widespread overload or outages that could take us entirely down, we want to be prepared with numerous methods.

Packet Radio is one.

https://SFWEM.NET/ <https://sfwem.net/> is another.

WINLINK is one we are just now beginning to implement, yet it is the official unofficial channel upstream to our regional and state emcomm agencies.

My efforts always attempt to integrate as much as possible, and to utilize Internet standards it at all possible.

—Sky





> On Jun 4, 2021, at 8:11 AM, Langelaar <maiko at pcsinternet.ca <mailto:maiko at pcsinternet.ca>> wrote:
> 
> On 6/3/21 11:05 PM, sky at aa6ax wrote:
>> Maybe you do have this mastered already!
> 
> For the CMS absolutely, not perfect (as far as mail headers) but works.
> 
>> Am I correct that JNOS only talks to WINLINK CMS _via Internet_ ?
> 
> Long answer, not really, short answer, most likely, but not sure :)
> 
> > My friend Rob NZ6J provisioned a WINLINK RMS on a station which I
> 
> > can reach via my vhf connection.
> 
> So if you have internet, one could say why not go to the CMS direct ? Because
> Rob will no doubt have his Winliink RMS on internet as well, so what is gained ?
> 
> BUT having said that, you 'could' try to do what you propose below. B2F support
> is most certainly in there, and aluding to my earlier 'not sure' remark, at one time
> I was actively developing B2F (or trying to with Airmail, winlink express, winmor,
> pactor devices), but nobody was knocking at the door, so I decided to just make
> sure the CMS stuff worked. I have no problem tweaking the code if you can get
> it to do something with RMS ... When I did this, I didn't have local RMS nodes
> handy at the time, I suppose I could setup a test one, if you want to try go for it.
> 
>>     telnetcms.winlink.org <http://telnetcms.winlink.org/>  <http://cms.winlink.org <http://cms.winlink.org/>>  8772 cronly
>> Perhaps become?
>>     ax25 vhf NZ6J-10
> 
>> And this line…?
>>     .CMSTelnet
> That's an 'application' password the CMS requires before you go any further.
>> So if I just change the forward instructions to go on VHF, do you think it might work?
> 
> GIve it a shot, let me know the results (logs, etc)
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 8:03 PM, M Langelaar <maiko at pcsinternet.ca <mailto:maiko at pcsinternet.ca> <mailto:maiko at pcsinternet.ca <mailto:maiko at pcsinternet.ca>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sky,
>>> 
>>> > What is the JNOS Winlink client? I'm not seeing this in the JNOS manual.
>>> 
>>> https://www.langelaar.net/jnos2/documents/j2addendum.txt <https://www.langelaar.net/jnos2/documents/j2addendum.txt>
>>> 
>>> That is the addendum that overrides any documentation. I started it about
>>> a year ago, it's heavily documented the sections that I have in there so far,
>>> the winlink section I believe is covered quite thoroughly. It's a growing doc.
>>> 
>>> > I see a mention on http://hb1bbs.com/HB3NOS-Jnos/ <http://hb1bbs.com/HB3NOS-Jnos/> <http://hb1bbs.com/HB3NOS-Jnos/ <http://hb1bbs.com/HB3NOS-Jnos/>> that JNOS can ...
>>> 
>>> BUT that's not the official site for the stuff that I release.
>>> 
>>> It looks like he's taken a branch off my official JNOS 2.0 and added his
>>> own personal mods and such, it's cleared stated on the webpage, which
>>> is fine, nice to see people doing their own thing. I did the same 17 years
>>> ago, when I started JNOS 2.0, it was based on the last JNOS 1.11f ...
>>> 
>>> Maiko / VE4KLM
>>> 
>> 
> 
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