[nos-bbs] nos-bbs Digest, Vol 116, Issue 11

Jose Ng Lee hp2cwb at cwpanama.net
Thu Mar 20 10:47:04 EDT 2014


That's correct.  If all the mail is processed OK, the only file left in 
mqueue is the sequence.  I have so many spam mail waiting to be process in 
mqueue that my Jnos couldn't handle and crash.  I deleted all those hundreds 
and thousands spam.

José / HP2AT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jj" <ve1jot at eastlink.ca>
To: <nos-bbs at tapr.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] nos-bbs Digest, Vol 116, Issue 11


> uhm, my mail is always in the spool/mail directory...NOT mqueue..mqueue 
> just holds one file keeps track of msg number...
>
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>>     1. Re: How to avoid SMTP spam mail in mqueue (Jose Ng Lee)
>>     2. Re: How to avoid SMTP spam mail in mqueue (Bob Tenty)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 14:27:32 -0500
>> From: "Jose Ng Lee" <hp2cwb at cwpanama.net>
>> To: "Michael E Fox - N6MEF" <n6mef at mefox.org>
>> Cc: TAPR xNOS Mailing List <nos-bbs at tapr.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] How to avoid SMTP spam mail in mqueue
>> Message-ID: <48074B0A594647769B299A016F9A8A67 at HOLLYWOOD.HOLLYWOOD.COM>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Thanks for the recommendations Michael.
>>
>> I have shorewall firewall block port 25 for two days and Jnos was good 
>> and no crash.  Today, I tried open port 25 and monitored TUN0 with 
>> tcpdump.  The smtp mail spam just keep flowing and my Jnos is accepting 
>> those spam mail for relay and crashing.
>>
>> As I understood, by default Jnos Deny Relay.  I tried the commands "smtp 
>> deny relay" and "stmp relay deny" but not accepted.
>>
>> Still trying to find out why Jnos is accepting those e-mail instead of 
>> denying relay.  Before, I don't have in Rewrite a specific define and all 
>> the spam e-mails accumulated in mqueue.  Now, in Rewrite everything that 
>> is not defined is put in check.  So, the check.txt file is growing larger 
>> (later delete) but at least is not smtp for delivered out.
>>
>> Jos? / HP2AT
>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    From: Michael E Fox - N6MEF
>>    To: Jose Ng Lee ; 'TAPR xNOS Mailing List'
>>    Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 2:51 PM
>>    Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] How to avoid SMTP spam mail in mqueue
>>
>>
>>    For the greatest protection, run all email through your separate mail 
>> server.  This includes:
>>    -- inbound connections from Internet hosts to your public I address,
>>    -- inbound connections from Internet hosts to your 44.x address via 
>> tunnel from the AMPRnet gateway, and
>>    -- inbound connections from other 44.x machines to your 44.x address 
>> via tunnels
>>
>>
>>    M
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>>
>>    -------- Original message --------
>>    From: Jose Ng Lee
>>    Date:03/17/2014 8:39 AM (GMT-08:00)
>>    To: Michael E Fox - N6MEF ,'TAPR xNOS Mailing List'
>>    Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] How to avoid SMTP spam mail in mqueue
>>
>>
>>    Thanks Michael for the tips on how to protect my Jnos.
>>
>>    I could block SMTP (port 25) on the Firewall for inbound mails to 
>> TUN0, but does that block also the good mail 44 route coming fron encap?
>>
>>    I trying to figure out why my Jnos accepted all those incoming spam 
>> mail.  It should have issue an SMTP DENY and not accepted those emails. 
>> Maybe, there is a script somewhere on my CentOS machine allowing the 
>> entrace.  So will keep looking.
>>
>>    Jos? / HP2AT
>>
>>      ----- Original Message -----
>>      From: Michael E Fox - N6MEF
>>      To: 'Jose Ng Lee' ; 'TAPR xNOS Mailing List'
>>      Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:28 AM
>>      Subject: RE: [nos-bbs] How to avoid SMTP spam mail in mqueue
>>
>>
>>      Block direct inbound SMTP connections to JNOS.
>>
>>      Set up an MX in Linux using all the modern spam avoidance mechanisms 
>> dynamic black lists, UBE detection, signature-based detection, etc.) and 
>> send all inbound email to JNOS through that mail server using an MX 
>> record in DNS.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Michael
>>
>>      N6MEF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>      From: nos-bbs-bounces at tapr.org [mailto:nos-bbs-bounces at tapr.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Jose Ng Lee
>>      Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:55 PM
>>      To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List
>>      Subject: [nos-bbs] How to avoid SMTP spam mail in mqueue
>>
>>
>>
>>      I noticed today my Raspberry Pi Jnos was respawing in every few 
>> minutes.   So, I checked and found out there was some spam e-mails in 
>> mqueue not been able to deliver and causing the system to crash and 
>> respawn.  Deleted those e-mails and checking the logs and put in 
>> blacklist the offender IPs.
>>
>>
>>
>>      I play with 3 Jnos systems:
>>
>>
>>
>>      Main systems PC with Linux Ubuntu 12.04 LTS: onx.hp2at.ampr.org
>>
>>      No spam mail in mqueue.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Raspberry Pi with Raspbian: hp2ng.ampr.org
>>
>>      Few spam mail in mqueue.
>>
>>
>>
>>      PC with Centos 5.9: hp2sa.ampr.org
>>
>>      THOUSANDS of spam mail in mqueue.  Don't know how this got through 
>> or why it was received in JNOS.  The autoexec.nos is the same as my other 
>> system.
>>
>>
>>
>>      This is on the message heading on one mail:
>>
>>
>>
>>      Received: from pc-200402271018 by hp2sa.ampr.org (ONXSA BBS) with 
>> SMTP
>>              id AA24803 ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 03:17:52 EST
>>      From: =?BIG5?B?pWqo5a21vNY=?= <springboard at yahoo.com>
>>      To: "awze" <awze at awze.com>
>>      Subject:
>> 
>> =?BIG5?B?RGlzbmV5qOC1o7nPrtGhQqlfpf2lzaeupHCpaiC1paqpxXao7LTBuc+u0aFCpfq6?=
>>       =?BIG5?B?0KRqpViyTaFJ?=
>>      Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:58:06 +0800
>>      MIME-Version: 1.0
>>      Content-Type: text/html;
>>              charset="Big5"
>>      Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>      X-Priority: 3
>>      X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>      X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
>>      X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
>>      Message-Id: <24804 at hp2sa.ampr.org>
>>
>>      Took this JNOS offline until the problem solve.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Please can anyone know a way to deny receiving spam mail in jnos.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Thanks,
>>
>>      Jos? / HP2AT
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 19:24:32 -0400
>> From: Bob Tenty <bobtenty at gmail.com>
>> To: TAPR xNOS Mailing List <nos-bbs at tapr.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] How to avoid SMTP spam mail in mqueue
>> Message-ID: <532A2730.5070904 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Jose,
>>
>> Have you defined this in your config.h before your compiled jnos?
>>
>> #define SMTP_DENY_RELAY /* Refuse to relay msgs from hosts not in our
>> subnets */
>>
>> After that you can enable relay for a subnet if you need it, like this
>> for example...
>>
>> smtp relay add 44.123.99.1    0xffffff00
>>
>>
>> There is also a file called "refile" what is located in the jnos spool
>> directory what you can
>> use to filter email based on the "From:" addresses.
>> I will give you a couple of examples:
>>
>> *@financier.com|*@* refuse
>> warbelventas at warbel.com.ar|*@* refuse
>> h*lampe at chello.nl|*@* refuse
>> *@astroexpo.com@*|* hold
>> printz9 at 1st.net|ve3tok@* refuse
>>
>> See also the docs.
>>
>> But again as already said by others, let Linux do the filtering.
>>
>> This is of course a lot of work to setup and maintain.
>> Be also aware that spam filtering can cause a (very) high
>> CPU load on your computer, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob VE3TOK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14-03-19 03:27 PM, Jose Ng Lee wrote:
>>> Thanks for the recommendations Michael.
>>>   I have shorewall firewall block port 25 for two days and Jnos was good
>>> and no crash.  Today, I tried open port 25 and monitored TUN0 with
>>> tcpdump.  The smtp mail spam just keep flowing and my Jnos is
>>> accepting those spam mail for relay and crashing.
>>>   As I understood, by default Jnos Deny Relay.  I tried the commands
>>> "smtp deny relay" and "stmp relay deny" but not accepted.
>>>   Still trying to find out why Jnos is accepting those e-mail instead of
>>> denying relay.  Before, I don't have in Rewrite a specific define and
>>> all the spam e-mails accumulated in mqueue.  Now, in Rewrite
>>> everything that is not defined is put in check.  So, the check.txt
>>> file is growing larger (later delete) but at least is not smtp for
>>> delivered out.
>>>   Jos? / HP2AT
>>>
>>>      ----- Original Message -----
>>>      *From:* Michael E Fox - N6MEF <mailto:n6mef at mefox.org>
>>>      *To:* Jose Ng Lee <mailto:hp2cwb at cwpanama.net> ; 'TAPR xNOS
>>>      Mailing List' <mailto:nos-bbs at tapr.org>
>>>      *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 2:51 PM
>>>      *Subject:* Re: [nos-bbs] How to avoid SMTP spam mail in mqueue
>>>
>>>      For the greatest protection, run all email through your separate
>>>      mail server.  This includes:
>>>      -- inbound connections from Internet hosts to your public I 
>>> address,
>>>      -- inbound connections from Internet hosts to your 44.x address
>>>      via tunnel from the AMPRnet gateway, and
>>>      -- inbound connections from other 44.x machines to your 44.x
>>>      address via tunnels
>>>
>>>      M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>>
>>>
>>>      -------- Original message --------
>>>      From: Jose Ng Lee
>>>      Date:03/17/2014 8:39 AM (GMT-08:00)
>>>      To: Michael E Fox - N6MEF ,'TAPR xNOS Mailing List'
>>>      Subject: Re: [nos-bbs] How to avoid SMTP spam mail in mqueue
>>>
>>>      Thanks Michael for the tips on how to protect my Jnos.
>>>       I could block SMTP (port 25) on the Firewall for inbound mails to
>>>      TUN0, but does that block also the good mail 44 route coming fron
>>>      encap?
>>>       I trying to figure out why my Jnos accepted all those incoming
>>>      spam mail.  It should have issue an SMTP DENY and not accepted
>>>      those emails.  Maybe, there is a script somewhere on my CentOS
>>>      machine allowing the entrace.  So will keep looking.
>>>       Jos? / HP2AT
>>>
>>>          ----- Original Message -----
>>>          *From:* Michael E Fox - N6MEF <mailto:n6mef at mefox.org>
>>>          *To:* 'Jose Ng Lee' <mailto:hp2cwb at cwpanama.net> ; 'TAPR xNOS
>>>          Mailing List' <mailto:nos-bbs at tapr.org>
>>>          *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 8:28 AM
>>>          *Subject:* RE: [nos-bbs] How to avoid SMTP spam mail in mqueue
>>>
>>>          Block direct inbound SMTP connections to JNOS.
>>>
>>>          Set up an MX in Linux using all the modern spam avoidance
>>>          mechanisms dynamic black lists, UBE detection, signature-based
>>>          detection, etc.) and send all inbound email to JNOS through
>>>          that mail server using an MX record in DNS.
>>>
>>>          Michael
>>>
>>>          N6MEF
>>>
>>>          *From:*nos-bbs-bounces at tapr.org
>>>          <mailto:nos-bbs-bounces at tapr.org>
>>>          [mailto:nos-bbs-bounces at tapr.org] *On Behalf Of *Jose Ng Lee
>>>          *Sent:* Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:55 PM
>>>          *To:* TAPR xNOS Mailing List
>>>          *Subject:* [nos-bbs] How to avoid SMTP spam mail in mqueue
>>>
>>>          I noticed today my Raspberry Pi Jnos was respawing in every
>>>          few minutes.   So, I checked and found out there was some spam
>>>          e-mails in mqueue not been able to deliver and causing the
>>>          system to crash and respawn.  Deleted those e-mails and
>>>          checking the logs and put in blacklist the offender IPs.
>>>
>>>          I play with 3 Jnos systems:
>>>
>>>          Main systems PC with Linux Ubuntu 12.04 LTS: onx.hp2at.ampr.org
>>>
>>>          No spam mail in mqueue.
>>>
>>>          Raspberry Pi with Raspbian: hp2ng.ampr.org
>>>
>>>          Few spam mail in mqueue.
>>>
>>>          PC with Centos 5.9: hp2sa.ampr.org
>>>
>>>          THOUSANDS of spam mail in mqueue.  Don't know how this got
>>>          through or why it was received in JNOS.  The autoexec.nos is
>>>          the same as my other system.
>>>
>>>          This is on the message heading on one mail:
>>>
>>>          Received: from pc-200402271018 by hp2sa.ampr.org (ONXSA BBS)
>>>          with SMTP
>>>                  id AA24803 ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 03:17:52 EST
>>>          From: =?BIG5?B?pWqo5a21vNY=?= <springboard at yahoo.com
>>>          <mailto:springboard at yahoo.com>>
>>>          To: "awze" <awze at awze.com <mailto:awze at awze.com>>
>>>          Subject:
>>> 
>>> =?BIG5?B?RGlzbmV5qOC1o7nPrtGhQqlfpf2lzaeupHCpaiC1paqpxXao7LTBuc+u0aFCpfq6?=
>>>           =?BIG5?B?0KRqpViyTaFJ?=
>>>          Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:58:06 +0800
>>>          MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>          Content-Type: text/html;
>>>                  charset="Big5"
>>>          Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>          X-Priority: 3
>>>          X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>          X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
>>>          X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
>>>          Message-Id: <24804 at hp2sa.ampr.org 
>>> <mailto:24804 at hp2sa.ampr.org>>
>>>
>>>          Took this JNOS offline until the problem solve.
>>>
>>>          Please can anyone know a way to deny receiving spam mail in 
>>> jnos.
>>>
>>>          Thanks,
>>>
>>>          Jos? / HP2AT
>>>
>>>
>>>
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