[nos-bbs] 44-net

[ac7yy]

Brian wrote:
> <rant>
>
> On Tue, 2008-01-22 at 18:50 -0800, ac7yy wrote:
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>> I am curious as to why you say that a 44.x.x address should be used?
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>> Kim - AC7YY
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>
> A better question really would be:
> "how would 44-net be best used?"
>
> to which a good answer could be:
> "whenever hams are running low-bandwidth networked applications
> requiring the tcp/ip protocol suite."
>
> There are very little packet applications that use tcp/ip out there that
> honestly require 9600 baud speeds (or 1200 baud speeds for that matter),
> and in such cases it'd be a great idea to keep the ampr.org alive and
> well with activity. Over the course of time, there's been many many hams
> who've dedicated an extreme amount of hours writing source-code and
> coming up with applications for the amateur community to use and enjoy,
> primarily with the intent that 44-net space would be used.
>
> We as amateurs have been blessed with the gift of a full /8 subnet in
> which to carry on our radio experiments with... and if we don't use it,
> there will be a good fight against us in which we can very well lose
> it... infact such a battle has already started.. by your ISPs! One could
> easily say "so what, I have a dynamic assignment and I use dyndns or
> no-ip, etc... what do I need 44-net space for?" Remember, when you sign
> up for internet service from your provider whoever it is... you're
> leasing a connection and right to use *their* network, and if you tear
> apart your ToS (term of service) you'll find as you read between the
> lines that the network you're being allowed limited usage for is however
> they wish to manage it. If they wished to cut off UDP access, that's
> *their* right to do such... and there's nothing you can do but switch
> providers until you find one that will let you do what you wish to do.
>
> A benefit of using an encapsulated tunnel with ampr.org space is that it
> gives you a way to provide tcp/ip services for the amateur community
> which has global internet connectivity that your ISP could be filtering
> on you without your knowledge if you were to run such services on ports
> being filtered. Such a case would be SMTP on RoadRunner cable
> connections. RR is very strict in their outbound SMTP policies, however
> by using a tunnelled 44-net subnet on boxes I've assisted in getting
> such things working, their SMTP servers are working just fine now
> totally bypassing the filters incorporated by RR. As botnets, worms,
> viri, etc continues to grow don't be surprised to see more and more
> ports and protocols being filtered by ISPs in an attempt to keep their
> own networks clean.
>
> Sure, it's not an easy thing to get up and running properly, but we're
> in this hobby because we're inventors, experimenters, and in a sense
> hobby scientists... it's what's supposed to keep us separated from the
> standard end-user who's lost if they don't have a "setup.exe" file and a
> mouse to click on it to execute it. Learning things is supposed to be a
> huge part of the "fun" of all this. 
>
> If you dig deep into that which is now a way of life for many people,
> you'll find SMTP, NNTP, and IPIP RFCs were all developed and written by
> Brian Kantor (aka: Mr. Ampr.org), who to this day works very diligently
> in maintaining a full /8 subnet for us all to enjoy world-wide... while
> developers such as Maiko, Barry, Tomi... and the list goes on...
> continue to do work in helping provide us with usable applications and
> services we can use on the ampr.org. The best way to compliment these
> guys who put in more than their share of time and efforts is if you use
> their products, use them on ampr.org.
>
> Technically speaking do you *need* to? By all means _no_, however it
> seems the less we use something we've had given to us, the more we tend
> to lose it such the case with 11-meters, and also such with part of the
> 220 band allocations. If someone has trouble with setting it up, the
> amprgate list is a great resource to use (and is a quiet list at that).
>
> </rant>
>   
>   
Thanks Brian. That sounds like a great project.  What would I have to do 
to set up and host a 44 net LAN in my area?

73
Kim - AC7YY


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