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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Of course, the two of you are right. However, APRS was (and still is in many ways) a canvass upon which many things can be "painted". Where others see a protocol that "emerged", I see a robust "blank slate" of possibilities.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Fact-based (not "qualitative") propagation study? APRS</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Small message passing? APRS</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Situational awareness? APRS</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">VHF Contesting support? APRS</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Local-area / off-grid event logistic communication? APRS</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Oh yeah, asset location? APRS</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">All of these applications are in <span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">in stark contrast to the "single purpose" modes that have blossomed in the last decade.</span></span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">My point is that APRS isn't a dead technology. We have simply paused innovating with it. Three (fully unbaked) thoughts include...</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">"Billboard" simplex beacons (not digipeaters) at altitude and with high power to beacon the widest-coverage repeater frequency/PL along with contact information for the area's three largest/most active clubs so newcomers are informed. They would serve a second purpose as propagation-tracking signal sources for <span><a href="https://vhf.dxview.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">VHF Propagation Map (dxview.org)</a> I'm actually working on two of these myself.</span></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Inexpensive low-power portable weather stations that EmComm groups could deploy around (but not "inside of the warning tape") some large "event", to feed wind speed and direction, etc to a central data aggregator that could repackage the datagram into a format that can be parsed by mapping systems used by official emergency responders and displayed as a layer for their use. "Inexpensive" because if the event is a field fire, it is possible that they may get damaged/lost with a shifting wind. :-)</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">A test of NORAD's ability to scramble when an APRS enabled educational balloon is launched. :-)</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Here's a sincere hope that the APRS Foundation is just what we needed to get to thinking more creatively again.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">With sincere respect and hope,</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Ev, W2EV</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 11:47:23 AM EST, david vanhorn <kc6ete@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp347563e0yiv8924923612"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Not to diss Bob in the slightest, but it was a lot like Verifone's TCL language. It grew rather than being designed. <br clear="none"></div><div>Progress is made, and we should not lame the future to preserve the past. <br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div id="ydp347563e0yiv8924923612yqt04597" class="ydp347563e0yiv8924923612yqt3123833156"><div class="ydp347563e0yiv8924923612gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp347563e0yiv8924923612gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 9:39 AM Dana Myers <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:k6jq@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">k6jq@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp347563e0yiv8924923612gmail_quote">On 2/26/2024 8:32 AM, Gregg Wonderly wrote:<br clear="none">
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> 1. Bob was not a software expert nor was he trained in network protocol design. The ability to process APRS packets is a <br clear="none">
> nightmarish exercise in string interpretation. This is amplified by user constructed strings, instead of using real <br clear="none">
> applications that manage data/packet formations.<br clear="none">
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