<div dir="auto"><div>One of the cool things about software modems is that it is possible for igates to receive multiple modes. I had a 70cm digipeater/igate going for a bit that could receive 9600, 1200 or 300 baud. The idea was that if you couldn't get in but needed to send something you could drop down to a more robust mode. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">On HF this concept seems to have even more potential.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-Jess</div><div dir="auto">K5LLI</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 12, 2023, 5:15 PM Scott Howard <<a href="mailto:showard@nd.edu">showard@nd.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 3:40 PM Stephen H Smith via aprssig<br>
<<a href="mailto:aprssig@lists.tapr.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">aprssig@lists.tapr.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> YES! Here is the preliminary write-up on the planned test in February.<br>
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> <<a href="http://wa8lmf.net/APRS_VARA_MFSK/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wa8lmf.net/APRS_VARA_MFSK/</a>><br>
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Thanks, these are interesting results and I'm looking forward to<br>
hearing how they go!<br>
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After VARA HF was released, fldigi added "OFDM" modes [1] which I<br>
believe are based on the same underlying idea as VARA. If it is<br>
possible, it could be interesting to see how the fldigi OFDM modes<br>
(e.g., OFDM500F) compare to VARA HF as well since fldigi is common and<br>
open-source. John Phelps (KL4YFD, the author of the OFDM modes in<br>
fldigi) has a nice write up describing these modes here [3, 4].<br>
<br>
A note: OFDM modes won't work for connected mode AX.25 because they<br>
are designed to be robust in extreme fading links and therefore won't<br>
be able to acknowledge packets within the timeout window. However,<br>
APRS's unconnected mode (AX.25 UI frames) don't need a response, so<br>
that caveat shouldn't affect APRS.<br>
<br>
With SDR becoming so easily available (heck, people even figured out<br>
how to do it on a tiny microcontroller [5]!), and DSP/FEC pretty much<br>
ubiquitous, you can tailor whatever mode you want for specific link<br>
properties (how fast do you want to go? how low SNR? how much fading<br>
do you want to be resilient to? how long do you want your time on air<br>
per packet? what power efficiency do you need?). The hard part is<br>
picking one, or at least picking the parameters that matter. I think<br>
that's partly why APRS was so successful: the bell 202 modem was so<br>
common and the de facto standard in other areas, so the available<br>
hardware probably made it a relatively easier choice. Everything could<br>
be designed around the bell 202 modem. The current abundance of choice<br>
is probably a good and new challenge for the community & APRS<br>
Foundation that didn't exist when APRS was created.<br>
<br>
-Scott KD9PDP<br>
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[1] <a href="http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/OFDM_page.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.w1hkj.com/FldigiHelp/OFDM_page.html</a><br>
[2] <a href="https://rosmodem.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/levels.jpg" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rosmodem.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/levels.jpg</a><br>
[3] <a href="https://groups.io/g/NBEMS-HI/message/1273" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://groups.io/g/NBEMS-HI/message/1273</a><br>
[4] <a href="https://sourceforge.net/p/fldigi/mailman/message/37278628/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://sourceforge.net/p/fldigi/mailman/message/37278628/</a><br>
[5] <a href="https://dl2man.de/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dl2man.de/</a><br>
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