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The DJI Fly app also has an option to route the live video out to an
RTSP server, so at the very least you could have the video stream
going out via WiFi to a TV that way. Probably with a bit of extra
latency.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/10/2022 12:26 PM, Leon Ciereszko
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I am with Scott on the DJIs;
they just work. I have a small fleet at work and I use the
stock controller with an iPad Air for the display/ flight plan
controller. An inexpensive android tablet should work for you
application (I need to program complex flight plans). The
control that comes with it has the standard up/ down/ port/
starboard controls but no display. I just looked at the
controller for a DJI Phantom 4 PRO and it has no video output
(there is USB "A" output); there is an external viewer option
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<div dir="ltr">Any recommneation for modest cost quality
drone for flying around my 1<br>
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<div dir="ltr">acre property for inspections. My health has
me headed to bed ridden<br>
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<div dir="ltr">and so as we clean up<br>
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<div dir="ltr">all the work needed (using contractors aned
other h3alp around the<br>
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<div dir="ltr">yard) I need to zoom in<br>
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decisios.from my bed<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Initially cost was no option so I couil also
fly around the n3ighborhood and up<br>
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<div dir="ltr">and donw th3e creek, but most are not
desgined beyond operator field of vieww.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Also no smart phone wanted. needs ts own
closed system. Base should be<br>
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<div dir="ltr">able to plug into to TV for large view?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ive never looked at drones b4 so I could be
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<div dir="ltr">I've got a DJI Mini 2 and I really like it.
Been doing both cinematic <br>
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<div dir="ltr">stuff and more utilitarian surveying. It was
about $440 from Costco for <br>
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<div dir="ltr">the bundle. I'm currently about $900 into the
hobby, including extra <br>
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<div dir="ltr">batteries and charger, filters, sun shade,
and Part 107 testing fee.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">It does need a smart phone or tablet, unless
you buy the DJI smart <br>
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<div dir="ltr">controller. The smart controller is 2-4x the
price of the drone, though. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">I already had a slightly out of date spare
Android phone that I paid <br>
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<div dir="ltr">about $60 for and it works just fine.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The camera is great. It shoots good 4K video
at 30 fps, and 2.7K at 60 <br>
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<div dir="ltr">fps. Endurance is about 30 minutes but I
don't normally push it past 20. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">It's under 250 grams so no need to register
it. It folds up small enough <br>
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<div dir="ltr">to fit in a coat pocket. Here's a quick video
of my shop roof to show <br>
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<div dir="ltr">how it could work for inspection purposes -
I'd only had the drone a <br>
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<div dir="ltr">couple of days at that point so there's no
particular skill on my part: <br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think your biggest problem is going to be
the control signal. Line of <br>
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<div dir="ltr">sight it'll supposedly do 10 km. You know
what RF performance is like in <br>
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<div dir="ltr">the real world, though. I flew mine under a
railroad bridge from maybe <br>
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<div dir="ltr">100 yards away and went from full strength to
no video in an instant. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">Still managed to keep the control link,
though, and flew it out the <br>
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<div dir="ltr">other side blind. So flying from your bedroom
might be difficult, but <br>
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<div dir="ltr">you could certainly do it from a wheelchair
or something if you can get <br>
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<div dir="ltr">outside. (Also legally you're supposed to
maintain visual line of sight. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">And if you're using it for anything other
than recreational purposes <br>
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<div dir="ltr">you're supposed to have a Part 107
certificate.)<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><br>
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<div dir="ltr">The Mini 2's biggest deficiency is its lack
of collision avoidance <br>
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<div dir="ltr">sensors. It only has a downward-facing
sensor. For inspection work you <br>
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<div dir="ltr">really need to be vigilant about maintaining
situational awareness. The <br>
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<div dir="ltr">good news is that with a high resolution
camera you don't need to get <br>
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<div dir="ltr">super close most of the time. The sub-$1000
drones from DJI also don't <br>
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<div dir="ltr">have any autonomous flight capabilities,
aside from some pre-programmed <br>
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<div dir="ltr">camera moves. You can't program them to
follow a series of waypoints, <br>
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<div dir="ltr">for example. There's third-party software
that will sort of do that, but <br>
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<div dir="ltr">only by "virtual stick" inputs where the
drone is piloted by the <br>
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<div dir="ltr">controller. If it loses the signal, it can't
keep flying the programmed <br>
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<div dir="ltr">route.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Scott<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On 1/9/2022 1:29 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> Any recommneation for modest cost
quality drone for flying around my 1<br>
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<div dir="ltr">> acre property for inspections. My
health has me headed to bed ridden<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">> and so as we clean up<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">> all the work needed (using contractors
aned other h3alp around the<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">> yard) I need to zoom in<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">> to look at things and help making
decisios.from my bed<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">> Initially cost was no option so I couil
also fly around the n3ighborhood and up<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">> and donw th3e creek, but most are not
desgined beyond operator field of vieww.<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">> Also no smart phone wanted. needs ts
own closed system. Base should be<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">> able to plug into to TV for large view?<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">><br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">> Ive never looked at drones b4 so I could
be way off?<br>
</div>
<div dir="ltr">> Bob, WB4APR<br>
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