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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Wow, that is good info. Though we are kinda stuck with the way our HT’s send their DTMF memories. But it does suggest that making sure there are no repeating digits might make something work at higher DTMF speed than it would work with repeating digits.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> david vanhorn <<a href="mailto:kc6ete@gmail.com">kc6ete@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 8, 2019 2:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> Robert Bruninga <<a href="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu">bruninga@usna.edu</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Peter Laws N5UWY <<a href="mailto:n5uwy@arrl.net">n5uwy@arrl.net</a>>; TAPR APRS Mailing List <<a href="mailto:aprssig@lists.tapr.org">aprssig@lists.tapr.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] APRStt (touchtone) lives</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">FWIW: DTMF can be sent nearly twice as fast by implementing a simple algorithm. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">A typical string of digits contains few repeats.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">While the DTMF spec calls out 10dps as nominal speed, with 50mS tone and 50mS silent, the silent period is really not used unless you have two digits which are the same, as 1234566789 a delay would be required between the two "6"s.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I've used this in industrial applications very successfully.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If NextDigit = CurrentDigit, then apply delay, else not.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If you're feeling a little unlucky, a 5 or 10mS delay between dissimilar digits can always be added but I've never seen it be necessary.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 11:05 AM Robert Bruninga <<a href="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu">bruninga@usna.edu</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">The way APRS DTMF works is that you have a 4 digit "message" code and then a<br>10 digit callsign so that it all fits in a DTMF memory and can be sent with<br>a single key press. Yet each message is attributed to a callsign or<br>station.<br><br>The 4 digit message code consists of selecting a pre-defined message (1 of<br>99) and then including a 2 digit "modifier" as in "Runner 43 is down" is<br>0743. I know this will not work as is for large runner numbers >99, but it<br>does work as is for small events with numbers under 100. But you get the<br>point.<br><br>All callsigns and station names of 6 characters or less can be accommodated<br>in the ten callsign digits. The callsign part of the string is always sent<br>from pre-loaded DTMF memory after keying in the initial 4 digits.<br><br>So think about how we can use this capability. Remember, almost everything<br>that has ever been said on ham radio has most likely already been said<br>before. We just need the top 99 for any particular event template.<br><br>Bob, WB4aPR<br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Peter Laws N5UWY <<a href="mailto:n5uwy@arrl.net" target="_blank">n5uwy@arrl.net</a>><br>Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 12:49 PM<br>To: Robert Bruninga <<a href="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu" target="_blank">bruninga@usna.edu</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:aprssig@lists.tapr.org" target="_blank">aprssig@lists.tapr.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRStt (touchtone) lives<br><br>On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 10:48 AM Robert Bruninga <<a href="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu" target="_blank">bruninga@usna.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br><br>> 1. Runner XX just passed<br>> 2. Female XX just passed<br>> 3. Handicapped XX just passed<br>> 4. EMS is on scene<br>> 5. Need more water<br>> 6. Need checkpoint captain<br>> 7. Runner XX is down<br>> 8. Need EMS<br>> 9. Am at checkpoint XX<br>> 10. ....?<br><br>If reporting a runner's sex is really needed, can't you just add and M or F<br>flag (or H for disabled runner ... maybe Y for runner under some age that<br>means something)? Dunno - not a marathon volunteer (or runner!).<br><br>When is the launch expected? (and yes, I know what the date means - "no<br>earlier than")<br><br><br>--<br>Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>aprssig mailing list<br><a href="mailto:aprssig@lists.tapr.org" target="_blank">aprssig@lists.tapr.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig_lists.tapr.org" target="_blank">http://lists.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig_lists.tapr.org</a></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"><br>-- </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">K1FZY (WA4TPW) SK 9/29/37-4/13/15</p></div></div></div></body></html>