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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">One of my software mantras:   Naming
      can make or break a project!<br>
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      Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and
      Win32<br>
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      On 8/2/2018 5:55 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">YES,
            I confused things.  The place to put the frequency and
            callsign and other info in an OBJECT is in the “comment”
            field of the position data.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Then
            we came up with the more efficient Mic-E format in 1995 or
            so and confused everyone by calling the 7 pre-selected
            status bits as COMMENTs, and called what was the Position
            comment field relabeled as STATUS,  Argh!</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">So
            yes, the added info goes into the comment field for an
            object and goes into the “status” field when using an APRS
            radio that transmits the Mic-E protocol.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks
            for the catch.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Bob,
            Wb4aPR</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
            Randy Love <<a href="mailto:rlove31@gmail.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true">rlove31@gmail.com</a>> <br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 2, 2018 5:10 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Robert Bruninga <<a
              href="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">bruninga@usna.edu</a>><br>
            <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:aprssig@lists.tapr.org"
              moz-do-not-send="true">aprssig@lists.tapr.org</a>; <a
              href="mailto:hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org"
              moz-do-not-send="true">hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] APRS for your Hamfest</span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">I didn't think auto-tune worked from the
            STATUS message packets, only in the comment part of a
            beacon, or as an object.</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I could be wrong tho.</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Randy</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">WF5X</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Robert
              Bruninga <<a href="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bruninga@usna.edu</a>>
              wrote:</p>
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                  <p class="m-8960277427084243858msolistparagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">Ø</span><span
                      style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d">  </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">I
                      just read your post regarding Using APRS for
                      Hamfest Support. </span></p>
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                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><a
                        href="http://aprs.org/hamfest.html"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://aprs.org/hamfest.html</a></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Yes,
                      you want two things.  A “HAMFSTxxx” Object say
                      once an hour on the map for a week or so leading
                      up to the event.  And then for the TALKIN station
                      to have an APRS display in front of him so he can
                      SEE people driving to the event who might call in.</span></p>
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                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">For
                      the HAMFST object,  </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">You
                      want an object that appears on the map as
                      “HAMFSTxxx”.  You can use any APRS software or
                      radio to do this.  You want to start transmitting
                      it at least once an hour for the week or so
                      leading up to the event. Maybe</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Since
                      every hamfest in the world will be using the same
                      object name “HFEST-xxx” you want to choose xxx to
                      be unique so it doesn’t pingpong all over the
                      world. That all fits in the 9 character field
                      limitation for an object.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Use
                      an APRS client that is on the air continuously to
                      post the object.</span></p>
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                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Another
                      way without requiring an APRS base station is to
                      just use an APRS radio (no attached APRS software)
                      to generate the object, then only the new Kenwood
                      THD74 can actually generate an object.  But you
                      can cheat and use any other APRS radio to generate
                      the object, but WITHOUT the xxx.  Because you will
                      change the callsign of the radio to HAMFST-xx
                      where xx is now the SSID number from 1 to 15 and
                      “HAMFST” is the 6 character call.  This still
                      makes it unique, but then if everyone that is
                      going to have a weekend hamfest on the 15<sup>th</sup>,
                      uses 15, then it is not unique at all.  SO make
                      something up.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">And
                      to make that fake callsign(object) legal, be sure
                      to put the legal callsign in the STATUS text.  In
                      the status text is where you can say … “WNXYZ, on
                      16 Sept” for example.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Then
                      the other thing is to be sure that your TALKIN
                      also has a PC in front of him.  And that the
                      callsign of that station is TALKIN and be sure to
                      put the repeater frequency in the STATUS text  in
                      the format 146.940MHz de WBXYZ so that all mobiles
                      can auto-tune to that frequency easily while
                      driving.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The
                      HAMFST object ideas all use the object formats on
                      the web page:</span></p>
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                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
                        href="http://aprs.org/localinfo.html"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://aprs.org/localinfo.html</a>
                      which is a firehose of information  </span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Bob,
                      WB4aPR</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a
                            href="mailto:hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org</a>
                          <<a href="mailto:hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org</a>>
                          <br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 1, 2018 2:37 PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wb4apr@amsat.org"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">wb4apr@amsat.org</a><br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> APRS for our Hamfest</span></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Good
                        Afternoon,</span></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">I
                        just read your excellent blog post regarding
                        Using APRS for Hamfest Support.  The Gloucester
                        County Amateur Radio Club will be hosting the
                        ARRL Southern New Jersey Section Convention and
                        Hamfest on Sunday, September 16, 2018.  This
                        will be the 40<sup>th</sup>anniversary of our
                        Hamfest.  I am interested in using APRS for
                        promotion of this event.  Where can I find
                        information on the mechanics of posting this
                        event on aprs.if?  Or is there another way to do
                        this.  I do have a ZUMSPOT and noticed it can
                        post APRS locations.  I wonder if we can use our
                        club call sign to post the site of the hamfest?</span></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks
                        for any help you can offer.</span></p>
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                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Mark
                        H. Gottlieb, WA2DIY</span></p>
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                          href="mailto:hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org</a></span></p>
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