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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">One of my software mantras: Naming
can make or break a project!<br>
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Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and
Win32<br>
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On 8/2/2018 5:55 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">YES,
I confused things. The place to put the frequency and
callsign and other info in an OBJECT is in the “comment”
field of the position data.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Then
we came up with the more efficient Mic-E format in 1995 or
so and confused everyone by calling the 7 pre-selected
status bits as COMMENTs, and called what was the Position
comment field relabeled as STATUS, Argh!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">So
yes, the added info goes into the comment field for an
object and goes into the “status” field when using an APRS
radio that transmits the Mic-E protocol.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks
for the catch.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Bob,
Wb4aPR</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Randy Love <<a href="mailto:rlove31@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">rlove31@gmail.com</a>> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 2, 2018 5:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Bruninga <<a
href="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">bruninga@usna.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:aprssig@lists.tapr.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">aprssig@lists.tapr.org</a>; <a
href="mailto:hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] APRS for your Hamfest</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I didn't think auto-tune worked from the
STATUS message packets, only in the comment part of a
beacon, or as an object.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I could be wrong tho.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Randy</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">WF5X</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Robert
Bruninga <<a href="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bruninga@usna.edu</a>>
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<p class="m-8960277427084243858msolistparagraph"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">Ø</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1f497d"> </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">I
just read your post regarding Using APRS for
Hamfest Support. </span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><a
href="http://aprs.org/hamfest.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://aprs.org/hamfest.html</a></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Yes,
you want two things. A “HAMFSTxxx” Object say
once an hour on the map for a week or so leading
up to the event. And then for the TALKIN station
to have an APRS display in front of him so he can
SEE people driving to the event who might call in.</span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">For
the HAMFST object, </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">You
want an object that appears on the map as
“HAMFSTxxx”. You can use any APRS software or
radio to do this. You want to start transmitting
it at least once an hour for the week or so
leading up to the event. Maybe</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Since
every hamfest in the world will be using the same
object name “HFEST-xxx” you want to choose xxx to
be unique so it doesn’t pingpong all over the
world. That all fits in the 9 character field
limitation for an object.</span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Use
an APRS client that is on the air continuously to
post the object.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Another
way without requiring an APRS base station is to
just use an APRS radio (no attached APRS software)
to generate the object, then only the new Kenwood
THD74 can actually generate an object. But you
can cheat and use any other APRS radio to generate
the object, but WITHOUT the xxx. Because you will
change the callsign of the radio to HAMFST-xx
where xx is now the SSID number from 1 to 15 and
“HAMFST” is the 6 character call. This still
makes it unique, but then if everyone that is
going to have a weekend hamfest on the 15<sup>th</sup>,
uses 15, then it is not unique at all. SO make
something up.</span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">And
to make that fake callsign(object) legal, be sure
to put the legal callsign in the STATUS text. In
the status text is where you can say … “WNXYZ, on
16 Sept” for example.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Then
the other thing is to be sure that your TALKIN
also has a PC in front of him. And that the
callsign of that station is TALKIN and be sure to
put the repeater frequency in the STATUS text in
the format 146.940MHz de WBXYZ so that all mobiles
can auto-tune to that frequency easily while
driving.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The
HAMFST object ideas all use the object formats on
the web page:</span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
href="http://aprs.org/localinfo.html"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://aprs.org/localinfo.html</a>
which is a firehose of information </span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Bob,
WB4aPR</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a
href="mailto:hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org</a>
<<a href="mailto:hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 1, 2018 2:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wb4apr@amsat.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">wb4apr@amsat.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> APRS for our Hamfest</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Good
Afternoon,</span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">I
just read your excellent blog post regarding
Using APRS for Hamfest Support. The Gloucester
County Amateur Radio Club will be hosting the
ARRL Southern New Jersey Section Convention and
Hamfest on Sunday, September 16, 2018. This
will be the 40<sup>th</sup>anniversary of our
Hamfest. I am interested in using APRS for
promotion of this event. Where can I find
information on the mechanics of posting this
event on aprs.if? Or is there another way to do
this. I do have a ZUMSPOT and noticed it can
post APRS locations. I wonder if we can use our
club call sign to post the site of the hamfest?</span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Thanks
for any help you can offer.</span></p>
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H. Gottlieb, WA2DIY</span></p>
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href="mailto:hamfestgroup@w2mmd.org"
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