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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Bob,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Your list is good. I suggest adding the generic term of art “High Speed Rail” after “Bullet” that is specific to Japan.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Possible additions:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>A= = Automated People Mover (fixed guideway rubber-tire systems)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> I= = Incline Plane (Funicular)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>G= = Gondola (aerial tramway)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>N= = Nahverkehr (German for local transport) trolleys, streetcars, trams, trolleybuses<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>With the exception of T= for terminals, all these symbols represent distinct modes of fixed-guideway transport. All are rail transportation items that hams and the general public interact with. Other rail facilities are usually out-of-bounds for the general public and could be represented with generic building symbols.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Karl W4KRL<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> aprssig <aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Bruninga<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 16, 2018 5:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> aprssig@lists.tapr.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] AMTRAK mobile from DC to Minneapolis via Toledo Oh<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>OK, I added some suggested Overlays for RAIL symbols:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>RAIL Symbols: #=</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>/= = generic train (use steam engine for recognition)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>\= = tbd (use steam engine for recognition)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>B= = Bullet</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> (High Speed Rail)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>C= = Commuter</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>D= = Diesel</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>E= = Electric</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>F= = Freight</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>L= = eLevated</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>M= = Monorail</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>P= = Passenger</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>S= = Steam</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>T= = Terminal (station)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>U= = sUbway </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>X= = eXcursion</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>See: <a href="http://aprs.org/symbols/symbols-new.txt">http://aprs.org/symbols/symbols-new.txt</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bob, WB4aPR</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> aprssig <<a href="mailto:aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org">aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karl W4KRL<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 16, 2018 2:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:aprssig@lists.tapr.org">aprssig@lists.tapr.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] AMTRAK mobile from DC to Minneapolis via Toledo Oh</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>May I suggest keeping a low number of rail-related symbols: steam, diesel, electric, passenger, commuter, excursion, and freight.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>This past weekend I made a round-trip from Manassas to Roanoke with tracking by APRSdroid on my cell phone. Connectivity was by T-Mobile and Amtrak Wi-Fi. Here is a partially successful attempt to display the trip on Google Maps:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EfcC0uOPMVag5lWz2dohDVxXS1n6LzEK&usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EfcC0uOPMVag5lWz2dohDVxXS1n6LzEK&usp=sharing</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'>The data was exported from <a href="http://aprs.fi">aprs.fi</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=11&call=a%2FW4KRL-4&timerange=259200&tail=259200">https://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=11&call=a%2FW4KRL-4&timerange=259200&tail=259200</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><img border=0 width=100 height=100 style='width:1.0416in;height:1.0416in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D41DB0.0636A0C0" alt="Image removed by sender."></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'>73 Karl W4KRL</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Andrew AB9FX <<a href="mailto:ab9fx@aprs.pl" target="_blank">ab9fx@aprs.pl</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>I think there are different factors to specify a train category, mainly: type of engine, and type of operation. Which are universal for all the world. Beside of these factors there are operators which are almost uncountable around the world.<br><br>Locomotive Engine:<br>Steam, Diesel, Electric.<br><br>Train category:<br>Commuter, subway, city transportation, suburb, long distance, sleeping, express, high speed, special event, freight, shunting, armored, etc.<br>Across European countries, very common are following categories of passenger trains: InterCity, ICE (InterCity Express), EC (EuroCity), Regio, InterRegio, Night Train.<br><br>73<br><span class=hoenzb><span style='color:#888888'>Andrew AB9FX</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>aprssig mailing list<br><a href="mailto:aprssig@lists.tapr.org">aprssig@lists.tapr.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig_lists.tapr.org" target="_blank">http://lists.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig_lists.tapr.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>