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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I remember that a D700 with the voice module could actually speak out a message if it was formatted properly. Actually, I think it mostly spelled callsigns but did have some key words too.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I assume any kenwood APRS radio with the voice module can do this. I’m asking this on the APRSSIG to see if anyone remembers.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">And the Byonics.com Tiny trakers support the OUT Message command for remotely turning on and off bits via APRS message. Probably others do as well.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Bob</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Steven Fletcher [mailto:<a href="mailto:srfletcher@gmail.com">srfletcher@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 09, 2017 2:35 PM<br><b>To:</b> Robert Bruninga<br><b>Subject:</b> Re[4]: messaging systems</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Could a received APRS message (with a certain key word) trigger an alarm on most (or some) existing portable radios with ARPS on them?</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div id="signature_old"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Steve Fletcher</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Phone: 541-699-1909</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">K 7 K A K </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><a href="gentleplace.com"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Gentle Place Publishing</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><a href="drawingforth.org"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My Blog</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">------ Original Message ------</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From: "Robert Bruninga" <<a href="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu">bruninga@usna.edu</a>></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">To: "Steven Fletcher" <<a href="mailto:srfletcher@gmail.com">srfletcher@gmail.com</a>></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Sent: 9/9/2017 11:30:42 AM</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Subject: Re: Re[2]: messaging systems</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div id="x8c09665968ac427"><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:2.25pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Y4es, that is an ideal way to use APRS messaging. But that example was very verbose as you suggested. APRS messages are much more reliable the shorter they are.</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">bob</span></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Steven Fletcher <<a href="mailto:srfletcher@gmail.com">srfletcher@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Bob</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Re your reply, "APRS is messaging one line at a time ... if you can get a complete concept in one line, then it is a great real time messaging system."</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">I'm thinking of the "push" / "pull" problem so if it were guaranteed delivery with APRS a one line message could be very useful in a case like this:</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><blockquote style="margin-left:30.0pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">"EMERGENCY please check your Winlink mail box ASAP u have a Message from the Grant County Emergency Manager" </span></p></div></blockquote></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Or even shorter...</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">To prove the point of the "push / pull problem" I sent yesterday several messages through Winlink (via telnet) to several people who I know are registered and can use Winlink and have it installed on their computers. So far no reponses...</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">steve</span></p></div><div id="m_5139071504113079538signature_old"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Steve Fletcher</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Phone: <a href="tel:(541)%20699-1909">541-699-1909</a></span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">K 7 K A K </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><a href="http://gentleplace.com"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Gentle Place Publishing</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><a href="http://drawingforth.org"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My Blog</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">------ Original Message ------</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From: "Robert Bruninga" <<a href="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu">bruninga@usna.edu</a>></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">To: "Steven Fletcher" <<a href="mailto:srfletcher@gmail.com">srfletcher@gmail.com</a>></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Cc: "Bob Bruninga" <<a href="mailto:wb4apr@amsat.org">wb4apr@amsat.org</a>></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Sent: 9/9/2017 11:08:14 AM</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Subject: Re: messaging systems</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div id="m_5139071504113079538x10a8a22caf3d453"><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">APRS is messaging one line at a time. Not multi-line.</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">But if you can get a complete concept in one line, then it is a great real time messaging system.</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">bob</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">WB4APR</span></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Steven Fletcher <<a href="mailto:srfletcher@gmail.com">srfletcher@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Bob</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">I have been thinking about emergency text communication for the last several months. I just got appointed as the ARES EC for our county. I am being "encouraged" (pushed !!) to WinLink and so far I am not impressed.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">I just came across the article you wrote at <a href="http://www.aprs.org/aprs-messaging.html">http://www.aprs.org/aprs-messaging.html</a> - I have scanned it but not gone into any detail. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">I'm impressed !! Most people seem to be thinking about "cool" technology and not about something that works reliably and universally. This morning I sent the following graphic to a couple of hams, saying this is what "I want to see". As background, I live in Grant County, Oregon (pop=7000) in John Day, Oregon (pop=1700). It is mountainous and 3 hours to "anywhere". In the below graphic Salem (in the third box) is our state capital and where the state emergency management office is located.</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><img border="0" width="567" height="197" id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01D32BE2.291E6F20"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">I will read your web page in more detail...</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">steve</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div id="m_5139071504113079538m_2272649431776387264signature_old"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Steve Fletcher</span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Phone: <a href="tel:(541)%20699-1909">541-699-1909</a></span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">K 7 K A K </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><a href="http://gentleplace.com"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Gentle Place Publishing</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><a href="http://drawingforth.org"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My Blog</span></a></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>