<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body>Re: using car entertainment system screens: I tried firing up a Pi in my Honda CR-V, and was very disappointed that the HDMI-connected console display was actually lower than standard VGA resolution (lower than 640x480). With the screen real estate overhead of the default Raspbian desktop, I'm not sure how well YAAC would work. I may have to design an alternate main UI for low-resolution screens.<br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Fred Hillhouse <fmhillhouse@comcast.net> <br>Date: 8/31/17 10:58 (GMT-05:00) <br>To: 'spam8mybrain' <spam8mybrain@yahoo.com> <br>Subject: RE: [aprssig] Txt messaging <br><br><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I agree about the limitations. Sadly, it seems that many I-Gate owners see this as a potential for spamming the net.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Using messaging on any radio only interface is a challenge to my patience. I guess most of the frustration comes with using it enough to really learn the controls (motions). Working through an APRS client is a bit better. I have been using APRSIS32 for several years and there are too many ‘fine control’ movements necessary to use it while in motion even as passenger. Maybe that is more an issue with drop-down menus. APRSISMO is better for messaging.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I haven’t really looked at YAAC to have an opinion about ease of messaging. I do keep thinking about running it on a RPi using my car entertainment system as a display. That project needs a small collection of round tuits to get it done.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Fred N7FMH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> spam8mybrain [mailto:spam8mybrain@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:02 AM<br><b>To:</b> Fred Hillhouse<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] Txt messaging<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">The real limitation with APRS text messaging (besides the ugly text entry UI on APRS-capable radios) is that far too many of the I-gates are receive-only. Radio users can send text messages to distant Internet stations via APRS texting, but can't see the replies because no one in their local area will forward them from APRS-IS.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">But it is cool when it works. I still remember working mobile and getting APRS-texted with QSO invitations. Just very hard to answer while behind the wheel (as in, no texting and driving).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Andrew, KA2DDO<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">author of YAAC (which has a chat mode)<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Fred Hillhouse <<a href="mailto:fmhillhouse@comcast.net">fmhillhouse@comcast.net</a>> <br>Date: 8/31/17 09:18 (GMT-05:00) <br>To: 'Jess Haas' <<a href="mailto:km6gvw@jesshaas.com">km6gvw@jesshaas.com</a>> <br>Cc: 'TAPR APRS Mailing List' <<a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</a>> <br>Subject: Re: [aprssig] Txt messaging <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Jess,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Check out SMSGATE.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://smsgte.wixsite.com/smsgte">http://smsgte.wixsite.com/smsgte</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">APRSISMO does a pretty good job of messaging via APRS.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Fred N7FMH</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> aprssig [<a href="mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org">mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jess Haas<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:chiefsfan2@cox.net">chiefsfan2@cox.net</a><br><b>Cc:</b> TAPR APRS Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] Txt messaging</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The Kenwood D700 and D710 are easy to add bluetooth to: <a href="http://jesshaas.com/projects/d710bt/">http://jesshaas.com/projects/d710bt/</a> You can use an app such as aprsdroid currently, ive thought about a more text messaging style app that integrates with aprsdroid. Also ive been wanting to put together a service that will forward aprs messages to peoples phones when their radio isnt on, haven't had time to throw it together though.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">-Jess<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">K5LLI<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:28 PM, <<a href="mailto:chiefsfan2@cox.net" target="_blank">chiefsfan2@cox.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div name="messageBodySection"><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I seen a post the other day asking "has ham radio missed out on the texting craze" which got me wondering how we could take more advantage of txt in ham radio especially in the aprs world. Txt has been pretty much limited to a station with a computer or one of the aprs equipped radio. Texting with one of the aprs ready radios is clunky at best with the built in keyboard. So I was thinking that if it was possible to interface a smart phone via Bluetooth to a radio and a ham txt app was written for such messaging on aprs would be as easy as texting over the cellular network which a lot of do everyday already. Just a quick search of the internet came up with small tnc's such as the tinytrak 4and it looked like it had a Bluetooth adapter available? Any radio could be made into a aprs txt radio and with the digipeater function in the tinytrak a mesh network could be established with other mobile stations at a special event or with igate's on the aprs network. Or you could set at home and txt others via your radio and smartphone. There maybe other technicalities I'm missing but it sounds like a inexpensive way to start. You could also attach this to any band radio, 6m, 220 ect for more flexibility. I know there is a aprs app for android I think that does this but it maybe more aimed at position reporting where my thought are more towards messaging. We have a pretty decent igate network where this would work well and maybe it would increase the use of texting on our ham network.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>_______________________________________________<br>aprssig mailing list<br><a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</a><br><a href="http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig" target="_blank">http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellpadding="0" style="border:none;border-top:solid #D3D4DE 1.0pt"><tbody><tr><td width="55" style="width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:9.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="46" height="29" id="_x0031_504187734929" src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width="470" style="width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:9.0pt .75pt .75pt .75pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.5pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#41424E">Virus-free. <a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link" target="_blank"><span style="color:#4453EA">www.avast.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>