<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12051"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12056">Hi Scott. Interesting. This seems like primarily a traditional APRS AVL application? Did APRS supply any other service in these events? Do share! :-)</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12395"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12056"><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12396"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12056">Ev</span><br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12057"><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12203" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12202"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12201"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12200"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12199" size="2" face="Arial"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12198" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Scott Miller <scott@opentrac.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> aprssig@tapr.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:23 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [aprssig] Fwd: Help for First Responders<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1476961078559_12397"><br><div id="yiv3684480820">
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Oh yeah, that project was fun. Humbolt General Hospital lost the
EMS contract right after that so I'm not sure where the trackers
ended up. They were running half a watt on 70 cm at 9600 baud, four
time slots per second, two packets per time slot, with a cycle time
of 6 seconds. The trackers were all motion-activated with the goal
of lasting ~10 days without recharging. They were magnetically
mounted gadgets about the size of a paperback book. A few had their
batteries die early because the sensors were too sensitive and were
triggered by the wind against the vehicles.<br>
<br>
From a single receive site we had no trouble covering the whole
event and got solid tracks on ambulances headed back down NV 447 out
to about 15 miles where they started to get into the hills.<br>
<br>
There's also been some APRS activity among participants. Someone
was talking about putting trackers on the major art cars and
building a physical model of the site with miniature versions of the
art cars moving around in real time.<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
N1VG<br>
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<div class="yiv3684480820moz-cite-prefix">On 10/19/2016 5:07 AM, spam8mybrain
wrote:<br>
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APRS is used annually in Black Rock City, Nevada, for fire and EMS
resource management at the BurningMan Arts Festival. Scott Miller
would have more details about that, as he designed and built the
hardened trackers used in that rather hostile environment.
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<div>Alas, I wasn't able to be personally involved, as I couldn't
get the necessary additional features into my YAAC software on
the short notice I had, so they used another application,
Depiction, as the display console.</div>
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<div>Whether this sort of application has been obsoleted by
Project 25 comm systems, I can't say.</div>
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<div>Andrew, KA2DDO </div>
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Date: 10/18/16 8:14 PM (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv3684480820moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org"><aprssig@tapr.org></a> <br>
Subject: [aprssig] Fwd: Help for First Responders <br>
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Do we have any real life examples of APRS being used in real
events?<br>
It still seems APRS is ideal for tactical operations but it's<br>
generally unused - at least from what I've seen here - out side of<br>
Montana...<br>
<br>
Bill<br>
<br>
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Date: Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 11:01 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Fwd: [wl2kemcomm] Help for First Responders<br>
To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv3684480820moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org"><aprssig@tapr.org></a><br>
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<br>
How funny that I was contemplating how to open this thread...and
you<br>
did the deed for me, Bill! ;-)<br>
<br>
I would like to read stories of how APRS has been used to support<br>
Emergency First Responders (EmComm, Health/Wellfare, SAR ... not<br>
"public service" tracking of relay runners or balloon tracking).<br>
<br>
I would also be interested in learning if any APRS software
authors<br>
have written EmComm-focused apps that rely on APRS as its'
foundation.<br>
<br>
Ev, W2EV<br>
<br>
PS: Googling "APRS EMCOMM" doesn't turn up much of value in this<br>
regard...but I'm pleased to see that my article from EmComm East a
few<br>
years ago popped up. ;-)<br>
<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Bill Vodall <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv3684480820moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:wa7nwp@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:wa7nwp@gmail.com"><wa7nwp@gmail.com></a><br>
To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv3684480820moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org"><aprssig@tapr.org></a><br>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 12:07 PM<br>
Subject: [aprssig] Fwd: [wl2kemcomm] Help for First Responders<br>
<br>
I suggested APRS as an tool for this situation described below...<br>
<br>
It is often surprising how APRS is not even considered in many
EmComm<br>
situation when it (APRS) seems like such a good fit.<br>
<br>
There's much to be done with the user interface and messaging
needs to<br>
be fixed - but the opportunity is here to provide an awesome
useful<br>
Ham Radio service.<br>
<br>
10 years ago we had a storm in the Puget Sound region that knocked
out<br>
power for days - weeks for some. It was during those five long
cold<br>
days that I came to consider APRS as the ultimate Ham
communications<br>
technology. Today I believe that even stronger...<br>
<br>
73<br>
Bill, WA7NWP<br>
<br>
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Date: Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:00 PM<br>
Subject: [wl2kemcomm] Help for First Responders<br>
To: <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv3684480820moz-txt-link-abbreviated" ymailto="mailto:wl2kemcomm@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:wl2kemcomm@yahoogroups.com">wl2kemcomm@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
I was approached by a Deputy today asking what we (Amateur Radio)
had<br>
to offer to address a problem.<br>
<br>
IF/WHEN we have a big disaster (Cascadia Earthquake/Tsunami),
First<br>
Responders rightfully need to first see to the safety of their own<br>
families. Only then are they free to attend to their professional<br>
responsibilities.<br>
<br>
In such an event, phones will be out, both landline and cellular,<br>
repeaters for Public Service and Amateur VHF/UHF radio will be
out,<br>
and internet other than satellite dish will be out. Much of the
County<br>
communications is by linked microwave.<br>
<br>
Our terrain is rugged, with narrow valleys and many areas where<br>
simplex VHF/UHF radio just does not reach.<br>
<br>
How are other areas handling this need? How can a Sheriff’s<br>
Deputy/Firefighter/Police Officer most reliably reach his family
for a<br>
status check to enable him to attend to his job?<br>
<br>
KF7RSF<br>
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