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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Excellent feedback. I added the digipeaters to the symbols-new.txt file</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I agree that L and P are mostly obsolete, but we need them in the table because it will take decades before some people change their symbol.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I did add #W as a new one to cover the generic WIDEn-N, SSn-N with path limiting as the overall digi we use today if anyone wants to start using it.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://aprs.org/symbols/symbols-new.txt">http://aprs.org/symbols/symbols-new.txt</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Would that meet your suggestions?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Bob, WB4aPR</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> aprssig [mailto:<a href="mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org">aprssig-bounces@tapr.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kenneth Finnegan<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 18, 2016 2:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> TAPR APRS Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> [aprssig] Digipeater Symbol Overlays</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">So like usual, based on the previous comments on the sig, I spent a few hours down the rabbit hole of lining up APRS specifications, articles, emails, rumors, and ruminations, and have come back with what I think is a more distilled piece of understanding. (and another file in my APRS_notes repo: <a href="https://github.com/PhirePhly/aprs_notes/blob/master/symbol_links.txt">https://github.com/PhirePhly/aprs_notes/blob/master/symbol_links.txt</a> )</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Being the maintainer of Aprx, I'm particularly interested in the symbol overlays used for digipeaters. Unfortunately, digipeaters aren't mentioned in the overlay document. Digging through all of the "New n-N paradigm" documents, and reading state working groups + personal third party articles on digipeater overlays, it seems like the currently expected list of digipeater overlays is as follows:</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> /# - Generic digipeater</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> 1# - WIDE1-1 digipeater</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> A# - Alternate input (i.e. 144.990MHz) digipeater</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> I# - I-gate equipped digipeater</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> L# - WIDEn-N with path length trapping</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> P# - PacComm</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> S# - SSn-N digipeater</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> X# - eXperimental digipeater</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">* Why do we include PacComm P#? I assume that's left over from pre-TNC ID tocall days?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">* The I# I-gate digi isn't mentioned anywhere on APRS.org as far as I can tell, but the classic argument that we don't have Internet access at radio sites is becoming less true so these I-gate digis are becoming more of a thing.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">* I would vote for excluding the L# overlay since many modern digipeaters trap long paths, so I don't think that should be the defining feature of its icon. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">My suggestion for a suggested set of Digipeater overlays for us to promote to users is as follows:</p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> /# - Generic WIDEn-N digipeater</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> 1# - WIDE1-1/direct-only digipeater</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> A# - Alternate input (i.e. 144.990MHz) digipeater</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> I# - I-gate equipped digipeater</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> S# - SSn-N local net alias digipeater</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> X# - eXperimental digipeater</p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thoughts?</p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">--<br>Kenneth Finnegan, W6KWF</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Aprx Maintainer<br><a href="http://blog.thelifeofkenneth.com/" target="_blank">http://blog.thelifeofkenneth.com/</a></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>