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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I recently changed from a ‘fixed’ data plan to a ‘unlimited’ data plan and lost the hot spot ability on my smartphone (AT&T). I had to buy a hot spot device with a ‘fixed’ data plan to recover the loss.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fred N7FMH<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> aprssig [mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 14, 2016 5:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> aprssig@tapr.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] Bluetooth RS232 adapters to run a TNC?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>That has been my experience as well. The only way I've been able to use a local WiFi connection and still have access to the Internet on my phone is to enable the HotSpot feature on the phone and have the local WiFi device connect to the phone. TCP/IP doesn't care how the WiFi connection was made, and as long as you have a way to find out the IP address of the local device, apps on the phone can connect to ports on the local device without chewing up data.<br><br>Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32<br><br>PS. I've been experimenting with this using ESP8266 WiFi chips that I've enabled for APRS-IS communications. You can see them as KJ4ERJ-E* on aprs.fi.<br><br>On 9/14/2016 5:02 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Concerning Wi-Fi, connecting with a smartphone may provide varying results. I have a BlackVue dash cam with Wi-Fi. If I connect directly to it with my phone (Samsung S5) then all phone data exchanges attempt to use Wi-Fi and fail. It seems the dash cam resembles a hot spot to the phone.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I ended up with a hot spot for the dash cam. I turn off Wi-Fi on my phone and connect using my data. There may be an alternate solution but I haven’t found it yet.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just a heads up!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Fred N7FMH</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> aprssig [<a href="mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org">mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Miller<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 14, 2016 3:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] Bluetooth RS232 adapters to run a TNC?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yes, and there are various ways to pair devices (usually involving a pushbutton or jumpers), but you're still going to need power to both devices, so it's not that big a gain for many users.<br><br>My next generation trackers will have WiFi as well, so for the host connection I'm hoping to get more users to move to an AGWPE type TCP connection.<br><br>Scott<br>N1VG<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 9/13/2016 6:53 PM, Bob Burns W9BU wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>At the risk of hijacking this thread, would it be possible to implement a Bluetooth connection between a TNC and a GPS receiver? In other words, would it be possible to use Bluetooth to eliminate the wired RS232 serial connection between the TNC and the GPS receiver? Since neither device would have a user interface that understands Bluetooth, how would the pairing be configured?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> aprssig [<a href="mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org">mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Byon Garrabrant<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 13, 2016 12:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jim (List) <a href="mailto:jim.list@stuckinthemud.org"><jim.list@stuckinthemud.org></a><br><b>Cc:</b> TAPR APRS Mailing List <a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org"><aprssig@tapr.org></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] Bluetooth RS232 adapters to run a TNC?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have the TT4BT, which connects to the DB-9 serial port of the TinyTrak4 TNC and converts it to BT. It takes power from the 5V on the DB-9 pin 4, so if your TNC doesn't have that, you will need to find a way to power it. But as long as your TNC baud rate is 19200, it should be fairly plug and play. With some work, it can be changed to other baud rates, too.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://byonics.com/tinytrak4/">http://byonics.com/tinytrak4/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Byon<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 6:12 AM, Jim (List) <<a href="mailto:jim.list@stuckinthemud.org" target="_blank">jim.list@stuckinthemud.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>Does anyone have experiences of using a Bluetooth<>RS232 adapter to communicate with a TNC?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>With the prevalence of Windows pad devices with no USB ports, I’m sure people have done this but Google can’t find anything (apart from loads of the units themselves).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>Specific application will be a Microsoft Surface running AGWPE, talking to a Kantronics TNC.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB>Jim, G1HUL</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>aprssig mailing list<br><a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</a><br><a href="http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig" target="_blank">http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>aprssig mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig">http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="99%" noshade style='color:#909090' align=center></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td style='padding:0in 11.25pt 0in 6.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1026" src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png" alt="Avast logo"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3D4D5A'>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. <br><a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus">www.avast.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>aprssig mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig">http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p><o:p> </o:p></p></div>
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