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<div>About 1994, another APRS experiment- COWS IN SPACE. Where they put APRS trackers on a bunch of cows in a field and tracked their movement patterns.</div><div><br></div><div>Kent</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent via Electronic Means </div></div><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Charles Bland via aprssig <aprssig@tapr.org> <br>Date: 3/17/2016 18:43 (GMT-05:00) <br>To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig@tapr.org> <br>Subject: Re: [aprssig] Autonomous EMCOMM Telemetry <br><br><div dir="ltr">I made a deployable WX station a couple years ago using on Argent Data's WX station, a Baofeng portable, solar panel, battery, and charger.<div><br></div><div>Deploys in a few minutes on location. $300 or so.</div><div><br></div><div>I've always wanted to do water and other environmental stuff, but not bad enough to pay for the sensors on my own. These applications would certainly be ideal for Arduino and/or Raspberry Pi.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Kent Hufford via aprssig <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org" target="_blank">aprssig@tapr.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">We used the messh concept back in 1995 or 6 I think<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">for the SNOW-POLE system PACcomm built for the<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">Army for use in Czech Republic. It is when PacComm<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">introduced the original callsign substituting TNC's<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">so that once a snow-pole had digipeated a packet<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">it would not digipeat that packet again. (That<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">was our RELAY system).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">Problem was it would repeate all the other copies though<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">of its own packet digipeated by others. That is the<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">RELAY dupe problem that we have finall gotten around<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">to forcing obsolete in 2004 to avoid all those dupes.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">I proposed the WIDEn-N system back in 1994 but it<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">wsa not until 1998 that Kantronics put it in their TNC's.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">It is a perfect MESH system. Every station digipeats<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">it once and never again.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:133.5pt;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333">Bob, WB4APR<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> aprssig [mailto:<a href="mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org" target="_blank">aprssig-bounces@tapr.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>khufford via aprssig<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ev Tupis <<a href="mailto:w2ev@yahoo.com" target="_blank">w2ev@yahoo.com</a>>; TAPR APRS Mailing List <<a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org" target="_blank">aprssig@tapr.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] Autonomous EMCOMM Telemetry<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">SNOW POLES, were APRS sensor package in large PVC pipe dropped out of Ch47 helos in Bosnia in 1995.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757">Sent via Electronic Means <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Ev Tupis via aprssig <<a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org" target="_blank">aprssig@tapr.org</a>> <br>Date: 3/17/2016 16:35 (GMT-05:00) <br>To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <<a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org" target="_blank">aprssig@tapr.org</a>> <br>Subject: [aprssig] Autonomous EMCOMM Telemetry <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Has anyone come up with an APRS-based environmental telemetry sensor for EMCOMM use?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Specifically...having a "sensor/APRS kit" that one could drop-or-deploy into a theater and let it beacon back telemetry that would be of use to emergency first and second responders.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Examples:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><ul type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Wind speed, wind direction, temperature, humidity ... for chemical spills or forest fires<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Water level ... to help manage flooding<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">Air transparency ... to help manage air pollution<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Either drop-and-forget (like around a forest fire) or purposefully deploy (like, ahead of a flooding event)...but with the expressed purpose of providing valued telemetry of known quality.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Anything?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">Ev, W2EV<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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