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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>We used the messh concept back in 1995 or 6 I think<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>for the SNOW-POLE system PACcomm built for the<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>Army for use in Czech Republic. It is when PacComm<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>introduced the original callsign substituting TNC's<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>so that once a snow-pole had digipeated a packet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>it would not digipeat that packet again. (That<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>was our RELAY system).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>Problem was it would repeate all the other copies though<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>of its own packet digipeated by others. That is the<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>RELAY dupe problem that we have finall gotten around<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>to forcing obsolete in 2004 to avoid all those dupes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>I proposed the WIDEn-N system back in 1994 but it<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>wsa not until 1998 that Kantronics put it in their TNC's.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>It is a perfect MESH system. Every station digipeats<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>it once and never again.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:133.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#333333'>Bob, WB4APR<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> aprssig [mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>khufford via aprssig<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> Ev Tupis <w2ev@yahoo.com>; TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig@tapr.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] Autonomous EMCOMM Telemetry<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>SNOW POLES, were APRS sensor package in large PVC pipe dropped out of Ch47 helos in Bosnia in 1995.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id="composer_signature"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757'>Sent via Electronic Means <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Ev Tupis via aprssig <<a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</a>> <br>Date: 3/17/2016 16:35 (GMT-05:00) <br>To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <<a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</a>> <br>Subject: [aprssig] Autonomous EMCOMM Telemetry <o:p></o:p></p><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_2942"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Has anyone come up with an APRS-based environmental telemetry sensor for EMCOMM use?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_2943"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_2944"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Specifically...having a "sensor/APRS kit" that one could drop-or-deploy into a theater and let it beacon back telemetry that would be of use to emergency first and second responders.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_2945"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_2946"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Examples:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><ul type=disc id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_3056"><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white' id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_3058"><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>Wind speed, wind direction, temperature, humidity ... for chemical spills or forest fires<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white' id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_3057"><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>Water level ... to help manage flooding<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white' id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_3055"><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>Air transparency ... to help manage air pollution<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_3054"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_3053"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Either drop-and-forget (like around a forest fire) or purposefully deploy (like, ahead of a flooding event)...but with the expressed purpose of providing valued telemetry of known quality.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_3121"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_3126"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Anything?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_3127"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_3156"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Ev, W2EV<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym18_1_1458246301174_3157"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>