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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I also use a Nuvi-350 paired with a
D700 in one vehicle and a Nuvi 1490 paired with a T3-135 embedded
in an Alinco DR-135 in another.<br>
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One answer to "why" is it allows Net Control to create an incident
object, transmit it over the air (and/or the APRS-IS in this case)
and it will show up on the attached GPS (or APRSdroid screen)
allowing the dispatched support vehicle to navigate directly to
the incident if necessary.<br>
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Seeing the object on a map with "ME" closing in on it is far
better feedback (IMHO) than getting a description of the location
and trying to figure out your own way to get there.<br>
<br>
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and
Win32<br>
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On 8/10/2015 6:48 PM, Charles Doughtie via aprssig wrote:<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439231958724_196424"> I agree with
"why?".</div>
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id="yiv0593124694yui_3_16_0_1_1439157596800_123522">There
are club events here using APRS also. There are usually
internet monitors at race and net control and other fixed
locations. Mobiles transferred to provided vehicles mostly
run basic transmitter only trackers co-ordinated with net
control, etc. They are connected with the transferred
radio to the vehicle battery, leads secured with "duck"
tape, use mag antennas, etc. I use a TM-D700 and Garmin
NUVI-350.</span></div>
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de Charlie, N5EXY, Grid EM10fl, <br>
South Suburban Greater Hutto<br>
I'm lost - where am I? <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.aprs.fi/n5exy-9">http://www.aprs.fi/n5exy-9</a> <br>
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face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
Eric Lorenz K9LGE via aprssig <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org"><aprssig@tapr.org></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
TAPR APRS Mailing List <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org"><aprssig@tapr.org></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Backforty@blandranch.net">Backforty@blandranch.net</a>; Charles Bland
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Monday, August 10, 2015 5:28 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [aprssig] Mobile Off-Air Display<br>
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dir="ltr">Hi Charles,</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439231958724_196060"
dir="ltr">I have been reading all the replies to
your question with interest, but kept coming back
with a question of my own...why?</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439231958724_196078"
dir="ltr">(For some background, for the last 10
years I have been involved with the ADA Tour de
Cure/Chicago bike event, the last 5 as
Communications & Safety chair)</div>
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dir="ltr">You didn't explain, but I am guessing
that your SAG vehicles will cover pre-determined
areas of the course, and that you have a net
control operator(s) that are coordinating
operations. While it is a nice idea, if it was
me...I want my ops keeping situational awareness
of what's going on in their area (i.e., what's
happening outside their vehicle). They really
don't need to know what's going on over the rest
of the course- that's the job of net control (and
whoever may be helping them). You are really
adding more complexity than necessary to their
job. They can't be watching for issues if they are
studying another screen...</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1439231958724_196676"
dir="ltr">Hope this helps,<br clear="none">
Eric K9LGE</div>
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<div class="yiv8979615163gmail_quote">On Aug 10,
2015 2:44 PM, "Charles Bland via aprssig" <<a
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<div>You did nail it that this is a RX-only
requirement. We already have trackers on
the cars.</div>
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<div>I had forgot about APRSDroid. That may
indeed be a viable solution.</div>
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<div>Thanks, Dallas, and to everyone else
that has chimed-in.</div>
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<div>Chuck</div>
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<div class="yiv8979615163gmail_quote">On
Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Dallas
Clements via aprssig <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div class="yiv8979615163gmail_extra">Chuck,</div>
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<div class="yiv8979615163gmail_extra">Several
options have been shared so far to
help you with your bike race. I've
used AvMap, WinBooks, Bluetooth
TNCs, and soft TNCs. All have their
merits, but if you're looking for
something that will be less
expensive to procure for multiple
assistance vehicles and rest stops,
I'd recommend simply hooking an
Android tablet or phone via audio
cable to a HT. The app APRSDroid has
a connection protocol labeled "AFSK
via Speaker/Mic" that will decode
the received packets heard on the
radio and overlay them on a map on
the Android device's screen. The
option to use an Offline Street Map
is there and with the device's built
in GPS, you know where you are in
relation to the objects that you're
receiving. </div>
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<div class="yiv8979615163gmail_extra">Simple.
Inexpensive. </div>
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<div class="yiv8979615163gmail_extra">If
you wanted to transmit, too, I'd
recommend a more capable radio than
a HT, but it sounds like you're just
trying to bring situational
awareness to more people. That being
the case, the wattage of the device
is irrelevant. Depending on your
peer group, it's not hard to find
people who have an older Android
device gathering dust in their home
from the last upgrade cycle or two.
That leaves your cost at $4.99 for
the app and whatever money you spend
making cables. I'm assuming finding
HTs and mag mount antennas to borrow
will also not be a problem within
your local club.</div>
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<div class="yiv8979615163gmail_extra">This
setup that I'm describing is the
entry level APRS rig that we use to
get new amateurs in our club exposed
to APRS. After they use it for a few
weeks, they tend to upgrade to
something with more transmit power.
However, for your purposes, it may
be ideal.</div>
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<div class="yiv8979615163gmail_extra">Here's
the "how-to" we wrote for our club.
It has a wiring diagram for Wouxun,
Baofeng, and some Kenwood HTs.</div>
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<div class="yiv8979615163gmail_extra">Dallas
Clements</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I'd like to get the
latest opinion from this group
about putting together a simple
mobile APRS display solution.
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<div>Our local club does a
couple of bike events each
year. We have an ad-hoc
network to support our
trackers over the course area.
I have been turning my
attention toward broader use
of the info. For example, our
rest stops now have displays,
and we run a Public Info table
so that we can make event
participants aware of what we
do and how we do it.</div>
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<div>I am now turning my
attention to our radio
operators in the sag wagons.
For insurance purposes, the
bike club provides the cars
and drivers. The radio op
rides shotgun, using a Go-Box
that has battery assist so
that the cigarette lighter
adapter isn't doing the heavy
TX lifting and can be shared
for other uses.</div>
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<div>I'd like to have simple,
non-transmitting display setup
so that the operator can
"look" around the course as he
has need. I'm not sure where
to start looking for
commercial solutions, if there
are any at all. I also have
been wondering, given the
abundance of R-PI hardware, if
a R-PI and display would be
enough to run something like
YACC. A simple RX and antenna
would be enough, and the
package could be small enough
to occupy little of the
precious space in the vehicle
and not pose a safety issue.
Even nicer if it could be on
the dash.</div>
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<div>So, what do you folks know?
How would you approach such a
requirement?</div>
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<div>Chuck</div>
<div>NA6BR</div>
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