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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">If they're the 6-pin wafer type, it's
probably like this:<br>
<br>
1 - LVTTL out<br>
2 - LVTTL in<br>
3 - RS-232 out<br>
4 - RS-232 in<br>
5 - Power<br>
6 - Ground<br>
<br>
Sounds like what you've got is a GT-525. Wieson is the patch
antenna manufacturer, I think. I don't recall the GT-525 being
high-altitude capable but I'm not certain. The GT-320FW was, but
it's at least 1" across.<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
N1VG<br>
<br>
On 3/31/2015 4:46 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:<br>
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12 hours from a balloon launch and I opened my box of tiny
GPS receivers we have had from Argent Data and the bag has
no docs! I go to the Argent data web site, and the GPS is
not shown!</span></p>
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anyone know the pin out of these tiny receivers? (I assume
they came from Argent Data since that is the box they are
in).</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">They
are tiny, about ¾” square and say WIESON on them. They come
with a pigtail of black, red, blue white, blue yellow. But
I can find nothing about where is 5V and NMEA out?</span></p>
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Scott Miller [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 10, 2014 11:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ed Lecuyer; Anthony Mascola<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: List of popular consumer
transceivers that CANNOT interact due to
interoperability problem demonstrating market niche for
Comms Hub / tactical mapping program</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The Tracker3 already has an option to put
out the NMEA strings for TNP for everything it decodes off
the air. I haven't touched it in a long time and I haven't
really had any feedback from users on it, so I'm not sure
how widely it might be used.<br>
<br>
If someone comes up with a working reference implementation
for a Rino receiver I'd be happy to look into integrating
that, when time allows.<br>
<br>
Scott<br>
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On 6/10/2014 8:39 AM, Ed Lecuyer wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Anthony (and all)<br>
<br>
We have no immediate plans to extend TNP in such a
manner. Moreover, it is doubtful that anyone would be
able to secure the permissions and protocols from all of
these competing manufacturers to produce a single
product that would communicate universally.'<br>
'<br>
That said, if someone were to produce such a product and
have it spout out NMEA strings in the format we have
documented, then TNP could be used as a display engine.
To pull this off, someone (independent of all of the
major mapping apps, etc.) might be able to secure the
permissions and protocols needed.<br>
<br>
If someone is willing to take on such a project, I will
be happy to supply a copy of TNP once they are reaching
the stage of needing a rendering engine. Until then, we
are not interested in attempting to develop such an
application.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
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<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Below
is a list of VERY popular consumer products which
track the operator's <br>
position and can send and receive position and other
information and display <br>
this on a moving map tactical display. The problem of
interoperability <br>
however creates a situation where these devices
currently CANNOT hear or be <br>
heard by others without the proprietary format and
there is no way to merge <br>
all this data on a single tactical display. What
results is a very <br>
fragmented system that loses tremendous potential for
coordinating <br>
operations. We desperately need a very high quality
universal mapping and <br>
communications hub program with up to date urban maps,
USGS topo and Marine <br>
charts where transceivers on each of the frequencies
can be connected to a <br>
single computer with a single tactical display. The
incident command center <br>
can have a properly licensed operator at the computer
and hardware that is <br>
FCC approved for transmitting on that frequency which
can be activated. <br>
This person can ID the field operators, see the
location of the field <br>
operators at all times on the map and have multiple
ways to communicate with <br>
that person from from flashing a signal mirror along a
bearing to a target, <br>
sending a person on foot to a specific location,
calling, emailing or <br>
texting their mobile phone, calling them on their UHF
or VHF HT or sending a <br>
satellite text message or placing a satellite phone
call to that person. <br>
There is a market for a company which will take the
lead and develop <br>
something that can understand and speak with the
common formats below and <br>
display location and messaging data in a single
integrated place. This <br>
needs to be affordable and easy to use. It should be
scalable and usable <br>
for cub scouts all the way up to multi-agency search.
Position data can be <br>
translated by this hub and sent as waypoints to all of
the different radio <br>
services and not violate any FCC rules that way each
field operator can see <br>
the others in the field as updated waypoints and at
least know the positions <br>
of the team at all times. Other freq data could be
attached to the position <br>
packet so the person could go direct with whatever
common RF they have. <br>
Please consider this request as there is nothing on
the market currently <br>
which solves the interoperability problem. </p>
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style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">AM</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Mobile
Phone</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Any
modern GPS enabled mobile phone, iPhone, Android,
Windows etc..</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Satellite</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">DeLorme
InReach: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.inreachdelorme.com/"><span
style="color:#4b60b2">http://www.inreachdelorme.com/</span></a>
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<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">SPOT:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=217"><span
style="color:#4b60b2">http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=217</span></a>
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<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="color:#4b60b2">http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=217&gclid=CILnhtC8774CFfHm7Aod_E</span></a>
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oAvA> &gclid=CILnhtC8774CFfHm7Aod_EoAvA </p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">VHF/UHF
handheld transceivers</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Amateur
Band</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Any
APRS or DPRS Handheld Transceiver</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Examples:
Kenwood THd72A, TMd710GA, Yaesu several models, ICOM
several <br>
models just google manufacturer and put APRS or DPRS
in search field</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Private
Land Mobile Radio Service</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Motorola
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.motorolasolutions.com/US-EN/Business+Product+and+Services/Two-way"><span
style="color:#4b60b2">http://www.motorolasolutions.com/US-EN/Business+Product+and+Services/Two-way</span></a>
<br>
+Radios/Project-25-P25-Radios/Portable+Radios/APX_7000XE
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<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Many
others</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">GMRS
Band</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Garmin
Rino <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sites.garmin.com/rino/"><span
style="color:#4b60b2">http://sites.garmin.com/rino/</span></a>
</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">MURS
Band</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Garmin
Astro <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sites.garmin.com/astro/"><span
style="color:#4b60b2">http://sites.garmin.com/astro/</span></a>
</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Marine
Band</p>
<p class="textilish"
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in">Standard
Horizon HX851: <br>
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