<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_17900" dir="ltr">Oh SORRY!</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_17902" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18221" dir="ltr">Thanks for the correction! <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18193" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18161" dir="ltr">I had in my mind that you have to look for the first letter on the black row below and then look for the second letter on the black column on left... so i wrote "Row 1st, Col 2nd" BUT THIS IS WRONG</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18163" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18165" dir="ltr">The correct is "Col 1st, Row 2nd" that means "Find the Column of 1st letter and then the Row of 2nd letter"</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18167" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18169" dir="ltr">e.g.  KM = 502, NQ=536, UW=902<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18171" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18173" dir="ltr">THANKS AGAIN!<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18258" dir="ltr"> <br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_17666"><span></span></div><br>  <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_17670" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_17669" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_17668" dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_17672" face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Απο:</span></b> Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) <ldeffenb@homeside.to><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Προς:</span></b> TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig@tapr.org> <br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18340"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18339" style="font-weight: bold;">Στάλθηκε:</span></b> 11:57 μ.μ. Σάββατο, 14 Φεβρουαρίου 2015<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Θέμα:</span></b> Re: [aprssig] proposal for APRStt grid loc. Σχετ:  60 Grid Square............<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18128" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv4434303462"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18127">
    <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1423943776150_18257" class="yiv4434303462moz-cite-prefix">Pardon my literalness, but if you say
      "Row 1st, Col 2nd", then for KM I'd go to row K up the right side
      and column M across the bottom and get 520 whereas your example
      says it's 502 which seems to be column K and row M?<br clear="none">
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      More than one example would make it more clear for those of us
      that need to see what you're talking about.<br clear="none">
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      Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and
      Win32<br clear="none">
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      On 2/14/2015 7:33 AM, George Vastianos wrote:<br clear="none">
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                              Bob<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              IMO in APRStt the conversion between grid
                              and numbers should be very easy in a way
                              that no calculation algorithm will be
                              needed by the user and only a small
                              printed table will be enough. In this way
                              with a small printed paper in the pocket
                              and the low cost HT anyone could define
                              his position in the APRS system (of course
                              if he knows his position and if there is
                              APRStt infrastructure in his area...)<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              In the attached file (PNG picture) you can
                              find my proposal for a simple conversion
                              table<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              the result is that you add a group of 3
                              number-digits for each 2 letters of the
                              grid<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              eg. KM = 502, KM17 = 50217, KM17uw =
                              50217902, KM17uw48 = 5021790248<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              based on the fact that my proposal uses
                              only the 0-9 digits and not the *,#,A-D
                              this makes it compatible with the APRStt
                              format.<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              The conversion table was designed in a way
                              that the conversion from the number to
                              ascii will be very easy (even for 8-bit
                              microcontrollers) and will not require
                              usage of memory lookup tables.<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              Below is a sample code (in basic style)
                              that will convert the 3-digit number into
                              the Grid Square letter characters (e.g.
                              for i=502 then Chr(C1) becomes "K" and
                              Chr(C2) becomes "M")<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              ----------------------------<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              'example I=536 will print "NQ"<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              Dim I, X, CO1, CO2, C1, C2 As Integer<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                              I = 536<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                              If (I >= 100 And I < 340) Then<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                                  CO1 = 10: CO2 = 65<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                              ElseIf (I >= 400 And I < 640) Then<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                                  CO1 = 40: CO2 = 75<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                              ElseIf (I >= 700 And I < 940) Then<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                                  CO1 = 70: CO2 = 85<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                              End If<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                              X = Int(I / 10)<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                              C1 = 65 + X - CO1<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                              If C1 < 65 Or C1 > 88 Then End
                              'ERROR i is outside limits<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                              C2 = I - X * 10 + CO2<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                              If C2 < 65 Or C2 > 88 Then End
                              'ERROR i is outside limits<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
                              MsgBox Chr(C1) & Chr(C2) <br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              In the above sample code the C1 and C2 are
                              integers that contain the ASCII value of
                              the 2 characters..... This proposal is not
                              only for the satellite app but for the
                              APRStt in general.<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              73<br class="yiv4434303462" style="" clear="none">
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                              <div dir="ltr" id="yiv4434303462yui_3_16_0_1_1423916460555_14871">P.S. The limit of 40KB in
                                aprssig list....really sucks! i tried 3
                                times to send the same email until it
                                fits in limits. SORRY in case you
                                received multiple times the same message
                                (e.g. amsat-bb)<br clear="none">
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