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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A station in <st1:place w:st="on">Greenland</st1:place>
recorded the audio as did not have any way to decode APRS, it was transmitted on
2M. it was sent to DL7AD for decoding and submitting<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We are not allowed to transmit from the
air as radio amateurs in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>
but we can use an unlicenced part of 70cm but limited to 10mW, it works well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Leo M0XER used a APRS VHF map of the world
I created, to frequency switch as the balloon traversed the world. So other
than Receiving it going out and coming in, I had a very small part.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also the balloon sent data it had stored
when out of range so it did jump around a little<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Updates to the map are of course welcome <a
href="http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:frequenciesn">http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:frequenciesn</a>
it’s a copyright free map, feel free to use, and contact me to update<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
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aprssig-bounces@tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Samúel Úlfr Þór Guðjónsson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 30 July 2014 19:56<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">TAPR
APRS Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Steve
Noskowicz</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [aprssig] M0XER-4
balloon approaching <st1:place w:st="on">Greenland</st1:place>?</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>DL7AD is injecting the packets to the APRS-IS from an audio file
recorded at a station in <st1:place w:st="on">Greenland</st1:place> who was
listening on 70cm.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>A bit confusing I guess, but no magic going on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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73 de TF2SUT - Samúel<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 30 July 2014 12:24, Gerhard.F5VAG <<a
href="mailto:f5vag.eu@gmail.com" target="_blank">f5vag.eu@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>It seems the balloon
sends telemetry in parallel on 70cm and on the regional APRS frequencies.<br>
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<a href="http://www.leobodnar.com/balloons/B-47/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.leobodnar.com/balloons/B-47/index.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I don't know any further
details.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Concerning the mails in
the Spam folder: This happens frequently if the mails were sent from Yahoo and
AOL accounts.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>73 de Gerhard, F5VAG<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:21 PM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Steve
Noskowicz</st1:PersonName> <<a href="mailto:noskosteve@yahoo.com"
target="_blank">noskosteve@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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I do look at <a href="http://aprs.fi" target="_blank">aprs.fi</a>, but do
not know enough to fully understand the packets. However, I did
wonder why a DL7 would be able to report it and see no stations on <st1:place
w:st="on">Greenland</st1:place>, so I should have questioned that position
right off. I do see that the DL7 packet has the WIDE2-1 path, where
the others have none. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Do
you understand how Leo's balloon data gets to both the SpaceNear system
and the APRS-IS? This is very confusing. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Looking at Leo Bodnar, M0XER's website, there is no information on those last
two payloads (-3 & -4).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>The earlier
balloon payloads are all so amall that they could only have the 440 50
baud tracker for the spacenear system and the spacenear map shows no receivers
in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region>.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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However, for the valid packets earlier, I could see on <a href="http://aprs.fi"
target="_blank">aprs.fi</a> that Heikki's software shows that
APRS digis had received the packets. Can you explain how this works?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>It
will be a few more days until we will know if either one is still
floating. I was watching the projected paths on the spacenear system jump
all around northern <st1:country-region w:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region>
and the <st1:place w:st="on">Greenland</st1:place> area. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>I
watched the two K6RPT trans-Atlantic balloons and captured the tracks and
put together a presentation for my club. The ham who took videos of the
launch sent them to mee and I edited them for the clup. I recall that a
ham also added some invalid packets on one of those flights and did not respont
to questions. I'll add Leo's balloons to my presentation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>RE
TAPR:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>I
get none of my tapr aprs sig messages back, not even in my spam folder. .
I sent that last one (and this) to both you and the sig. You are the
second person who said my messages apear in their spam folder. Very
strange. Perhaps I need to look at my account in the TAPR system.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>73,
Steve, K9DCI<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> Gerhard.F5VAG <<a
href="mailto:f5vag.eu@gmail.com" target="_blank">f5vag.eu@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Steve
Noskowicz</st1:PersonName> <<a href="mailto:noskosteve@yahoo.com"
target="_blank">noskosteve@yahoo.com</a>> <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:30
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [aprssig] M0XER-4
balloon approaching <st1:place w:st="on">Greenland</st1:place>!</span></font><font
color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:black'>Looking at the raw packets I'm led to believe someone played with
M0XER-4's beacons.<br>
<a href="http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=M0XER-4" target="_blank" shape=rect>http://aprs.fi/?c=raw&call=M0XER-4</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>P.S.:
Your messages arrive very often in the Spam folder of my Gmail account.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:04 AM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Steve Noskowicz</st1:PersonName>
<<a href="mailto:noskosteve@yahoo.com" target="_blank" shape=rect>noskosteve@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><a
href="http://spacenear.us/tracker/" target="_blank" shape=rect>http://spacenear.us/tracker/</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Via
DL7AD<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>73,
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face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>I
don't seem to be passing through the TAPR Reflector.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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