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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">With apologies…, unfortunately the below information is wrong.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><div><div><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d"><span style>Ø<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span>Today, effectively the first "n" of WIDEn-N now indicates whether or not a home fill-in digi can potentially be used for the first relay hop of a multi-hop path.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">While that may be an “effective interpretation” of what people observe, it is not correct.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><br><span style="color:#1f497d">> </span>If the first "n" is a "1", then *EITHER* a home fill-in digi --OR-- a high-level true wide can handle the hop.<br>
<span style="color:#1f497d">> </span>If the first "n" is other than "1", then ONLY a true wide will respond to and handle the hop.<span style="color:#1f497d"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Simply not true. The first “n” is the original N hop when the packet was initiated. The exception (which causes all this confusion) is the special “WIDE2-1” which is simply a cheating way to get ONE HOP without keying up all surrounding fill-in WIDE1-1 digis. For example, if I want to transmit a one-hop packet, but I don’t want to bring up my neighbors WIDE1-1 digi, and the one that might be in a neighboring car (heaven forbid), I would use the single hop path of WIDE2-1. Which has always been a special case of a WIDEn-N packet only intended to go one hop and without bringing up all the old-fill-in-digis that can only operate on “WIDE1-1”.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><br><span style="color:#1f497d">> </span>Today the *total* number of digipeater relay hops requested by the user is the sum of the first N of the first clause (normally "1") and the first N of the second clause (typically "2"), minus any "pre-decrementing" indicated by the second "N" of a clause initially being smaller than the first. I.e.<span style="color:#1f497d"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Simply not true.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d"><span style>Ø<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span>This is why WIDE1-1 is completely discouraged in the greater Los Angeles area.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Should not be so. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d"><span style>Ø<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span>The basin is completely rimmed with mountain-top "super-wides" that can hear and digipeat everyone everywhere on a single hop, without the help of home stations. The recommended path is "WIDE2-2" only which the local digis completely consume in a single hop. When you travel out of the greater LA area (i.e. over the Tejon or Cajon passes or beyond SBA on the 101), you "automagically" start getting two hops from mountain tops that process "WIDE2-2" normally; i.e. as two hops.<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In SoCal and anywhere else where the Aloha circle is entirely contained within a single hop, it is the responsibility of the digi owners to implement 1-hop enforcement so that all mobiles don’t have to change their paths depending on where they dirve!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">This is completely covered on the bible web page: <a href="http://aprs.org/fix14439.html">http://aprs.org/fix14439.html</a> as fix #12 and there is a link specifically to the 2005 fix that was supposed to be implemented in SoCal.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>> It's not a matter of "high-level" vs "low-level" paths. Digipeaters don't determine the path; they only respond to what the USER sets into their radio or TNC.<span style="color:#1f497d"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:#1f497d">This is true.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
<span style="color:#1f497d">Bob, Wb4APR</span></p></div></div></div></body></html>