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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks for the question.  That is the fun part!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The Repeater Object you want to “advertise” is the one that you would recommend to a traveler entering the area and just wanting to TALK to people in the area.  These days, with PL, it is nearly impossible for a traveler to play radio while mobile in a new area without knowing this critical info.  So it is your call.  If you were entering the *<b>coverage area of this digi</b>* what repeater would  you have the best chance of finding someone.  That is the one to advertise.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Fortunately, in a KPC-3, you actually have room for 3 such frequency objects if needed.  They TX simplex direct once every 10 minutes (and only when the channel as heard by the digi is clear).  Hence great info, in real-time, but at no cost to the load on the channel.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Bob, WB4APR</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Don Rolph [mailto:<a href="mailto:don.rolph@gmail.com">don.rolph@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:53 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wb4apr@amsat.org">wb4apr@amsat.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [APRS] Announcement of WA1PLE-15 digipeater in SW Boston Area</span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
 </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">We are struggling just to get coverage up! :-)  We will be tuning in as we learn more.</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">However as a practical matter, the definition of "key repeaters" for our area is problematic.  Is it:</p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">1) the local RACES oriented repeater?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">2) the local skywarn repeater?</p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">3) the primary Boston repeater?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">4) the dominant repeater for rt 128?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
 </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">5) the dominant repeater for Pawtucket/Providence?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">6) ...</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
Compounded by my not knowing yet how to create a frequency object. :-)</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Can you point to primers to help us get to the next step?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
 </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Also:  how to think about which is the primary repeater for our area?</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
 </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">73,</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">AB1PH</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Don Rolph</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Robert Bruninga <<a href="mailto:wb4apr@amsat.org" target="_blank">wb4apr@amsat.org</a>> wrote:</p><div>
<p class="MsoNormal">  </p><div><div><div><p>> I don't believe any of the digipeaters in our area provide repeater<br>data.<br><br>That is one of the primary functions of APRS digipeters. To provide local<br>info of value to the mobile operator. Configuring a FREQ Object for the<br>
primary locally recommended travelers voice repeater is easy to do and can<br>be corrected in the KPC-3 via remote sysop at any time.<br><br>And once you get it right, it should probably never change, since the<br>Repeaters that travelers or newcomers want to use are the ones that are<br>
long term stable, always available and not always changing. It is the<br>constanly chainging presence of come-and-go ego repeaters and links that<br>makes Ham Radio travel so frustrating. That is why APRS can cut through<br>
the fluff and tell visitors what the real value repeaters are in the area<br>where they are at right now.<br><br>It is great that you are taking leadership in the area in putting up a new<br>digi, but this is a great opportunity to lead the other area digipeaters<br>
to do the same thing. Providing the local ly recommended Frequency object<br>(from the digipeater) has been part of the New-N paradigm since 2004. It<br>is sad that some areas, have not gotten around to keeping up.<br><br>
The last thing you want to happen is for frustrated APRS operators in the<br>area to start putting out these objects from their own home stations and<br>adding LOAD on the network. This is not wanted. What is wanted is for<br>
these objects to be sourced at-the-digi where the digi can insert them<br>during silent intervals at NO-added-cost to the network. Putting them<br>anywhere else is just another spam on the channel that is not needed if<br>
done right (at the digi).<br><br>Thanks. See <a href="http://aprs.org/localinfo.html" target="_blank">http://aprs.org/localinfo.html</a><br><br>Bob, WB4APR</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br>From: <a href="mailto:APRS@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">APRS@yahoogroups.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:APRS@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">APRS@yahoogroups.com</a>] On Behalf Of Don<br>
Rolph</p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:13 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:APRS@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">APRS@yahoogroups.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [APRS] Announcement of WA1PLE-15 digipeater in SW Boston Area</p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br><br>Simply put:  No.  It is decoupled from our local repeater infrastructure.<br><br>We can look at that, but repeater density and flux makes configuring<br>
repeaters in the digipeater configuration tough.<br><br>I don't believe nay of the digipeaters in our area provide repeater data.<br><br>73,<br>AB1PH<br>Don Rolph<br><br>On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Robert Bruninga <<a href="mailto:wb4apr@amsat.org" target="_blank">wb4apr@amsat.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>Is it putting out the LOCALINFO for the recommended voice repeaers in the<br>area?<br><br>See <a href="http://aprs.org/localinfo.html" target="_blank">http://aprs.org/localinfo.html</a><br><br>bob<br><br>*From:* <a href="mailto:APRS@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">APRS@yahoogroups.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:APRS@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">APRS@yahoogroups.com</a>] *On Behalf Of<br>
*Don<br>Rolph<br>*Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:44 AM<br>*To:* <a href="mailto:aprs@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">aprs@yahoogroups.com</a><br>*Cc:* <a href="mailto:wlp1ema@aol.com" target="_blank">wlp1ema@aol.com</a>; Jeff Marden; Dave Doe; Don Rolph<br>
*Subject:* [APRS] Announcement of WA1PLE-15 digipeater in SW Boston Area<br><br>Roger Turner W1ZSA, Jeff Marden KB1TJI, and myself have installed an APRS<br>digipeater on 144.39 MHz:<br><br>WA1PLE-15<br><br>at location:<br>
42°05.70' N 71°16.75' W - locator FN42IC<br><<a href="http://aprs.fi/#!addr=FN42IC62LT" target="_blank">http://aprs.fi/#!addr=FN42IC62LT</a>><br><br>Testing to date indicates that it provides coverage from about Exit 11 on<br>
Rt I95 to Exit 4 on I95 (essentially I295 exit), East into Norton, and<br>West<br>potentially as far as Franklin.<br><br>The installation is:<br><br>Alinco DR-135T at 50 watts<br><br>TNC-X with X-Digi daughter board<br><br>
Austin antenna with 3 dbd gain (about 5 dbi)<br><br>at a rise of about 300 feet on an about 100 foot antenna tower<br><br>with emergency generator power<br><br>We will be tuning the configuration over the next several weeks.<br>
<br>Comments/suggestions are welcomed.<br><br>My thanks to Roger Elmore, Lynn Deffenbaugh, and John Hansen for their<br>assistance.<br><br>73,<br><br>AB1PH<br><br>Don Rolph<br>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]</p>
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