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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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 w:st="on">Lynn</st1:place></st1:City>’s graphic should be widely
available to demonstrate why paths at altitude are a bad idea. Obscuring the
callsign of course.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Maybe a visual showing of what happens
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I know of at least one manufacturer of
APRS trackers for balloons, that has coded altitude switchable path settings
into their trackers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Not sure if anyone has done longitude
switchable frequencies for Transatlantic attempts, but that would not be hard
for some trackers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> I have used Greg’s
trackers my G6UIM-9 is an ex balloon tracker. The kit is good and the customer
service excellent<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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href="http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle">http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/torbay_freecycle</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>APRSISCE/32 Beta tester and WIKI editor <a
href="http://aprsisce.wikidot.com">http://aprsisce.wikidot.com</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
aprssig-bounces@tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tony VE6MVP<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 13 September 2013 21:15<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">TAPR
 APRS Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [aprssig] Another
inconsiderate balloon</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>At 12:21 PM 2013-09-13, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) wrote:<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Yep, communicated direct (red lines) well over 300 miles (circle is 357
miles radius) and lit up digipeaters across a 700 mile range.  All of
those green lines at the edges are unnecessary digipeater hops because it's
quite likely that the red lines were hitting numerous IGates at the same time
the digipeaters received it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Now that's the kind of graphic that some folks need to see to understand what
is happening.  I can visualize things in my head, mostly <smile>,
but that graphic is awesome!<br>
<br>
Tony<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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