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It would also be interesting to have an FTM-350 owner see if this
format works for them as well. The D710 isn't the only APRS radio
with a QSY function any more. Of course, the FTM-350 needs to be in
VFO (not memory) mode for it to even think about working.<br>
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If this ever gets nailed down (it has been discussed before with
less confirmation than is now available), I will consider making it
easier to "properly" format QSY information in objects generated by
APRSISCE/32.<br>
<br>
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32<br>
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On 4/30/2012 11:33 AM, Ron Stordahl, AE5E wrote:
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<div><span>Richard et al</span></div>
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<div><span>I have confirmed that the format you list below for
frequency objects works correctly with my D710A (USA Model),
allowing single button QSY:</span></div>
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<div class="yiv2133051444MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
class="yiv2133051444rawline"><span style="color:black;">;146.85TRF*111111z4804.29N/09606.79Wr146.850MHz
TOFF - R45m</span></span></div>
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style="color:black;"> </span></div>
<div class="yiv2133051444MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
class="yiv2133051444rawline"><span style="color:black;">;444.80TRF*111111z4807.60N/09610.63Wr444.800MHz
T156 + R15m</span></span><span style="color:black;"></span></div>
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<div><span>Out of interest I went on APRS.FI and by scrolling
around the USA I picked the first 10 VHF objects I found.
Only 2 of them were properly formatted. The deviation from
the standard was remarkable. Of the 2 that were correctly
formatted, only one had the 'shift' indication of - or +.
The other that was 'correctly' formatted would have worked
because on 2M the D710A defaults the offset depending upon
the frequency.</span></div>
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<span></span></div>
<div><span>Of the first 10 UHF repeater objects, only 1 was
correctly formatted as it did provide the offset marker (a
+). The rest varied from nonsense to close yet unworkable.
For some reason the D710A requires the offset info for 70
CM, but not for 2 M.<br>
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<span></span></div>
<div><span>I suspect the reason for so little adherence to the
standard is that the example provided in <a
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href="http://www.aprs.org/localinfo.html">http://www.aprs.org/localinfo.html</a>
Specifically</span><br>
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<li><font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><font
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<div><font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><b>BTEXT
;FFF.FFxyz*111111zDDMM.hhN/DDDMM.hhWrTnnn
RXXm NETxxxxxx MTGxxxxx .........
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<div>Does not include the needed frequency offset (needed for
70CM repeaters and I believe desirable for 2M repeaters).<br>
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<div>Of course some deviated from the above so much I wonder
where they got their information! </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>While it is true that the number of D710A's as a proportion
of the total APRS radios in use is small, it would be
desirable to update the doc's so that this information is not
so hard to find.</div>
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<div>Ron Stordahl, AE5E</div>
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<hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
"Richard Sharp, KQ4KX" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kq4kx@arrl.net"><kq4kx@arrl.net></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Friday, April 27, 2012 6:23 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [aprssig] APRS Local Info Initative TM-D710A
compatibitility<br>
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try the following…</span></div>
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style="background:white;"><span
class="yiv2133051444rawline"><span
style="color:black;">;146.85TRF*111111z4804.29N/09606.79Wr146.850MHz
TOFF - R45m</span></span></div>
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style="background:white;"><span
class="yiv2133051444rawline"><span
style="color:black;">;444.80TRF*111111z4807.60N/09610.63Wr444.800MHz
T156 + R15m</span></span><span
style="color:black;"></span></div>
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<div class="yiv2133051444MsoPlainText"><span
style="color:#376092;">According to pg. 25-26
in the D710’s "getting acquainted with APRS
& EchoLink" manual it should be in this
format. </span><span style="color:#376092;">If
the repeater object is formatted with just a
“-“ or “+” it uses the radios default offset
setting for that band. So, the only time
specifying the exact offset would be for odd
split repeaters. Note the offset indicator
after the TOFF & T156 (the offset should
have a space on both sides). </span><span
style="color:#376092;">If the repeater is
narrowband the 'T' should be lowercase (tOFF
or t156). If the repeater transmits the PL
tone it should be C156 (c156 for narrowband).
</span><span style="color:#376092;">Since the 2m
side of the D710 has auto offset the indicator
on the object isn’t actually necessary –
unless a user has the auto offset turned off.
I would recommend using the offset indicator
for 2m regardless just for consistency. For
the 70cm side though the offset indicator is
required. Having the frequency listed in full
at the beginning of the payload will enable
the frequency display on the D710’s station
list on the right side.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv2133051444MsoNormal"><span
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this helps…</span></div>
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