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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>OK, enough. Hasn’t this topic gone on long enough? This really has nothing to do with APRS and the debate has gone on long enough. Please take this debate elsewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>73 de Jim, KU0G<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> aprssig-bounces@tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-bounces@tapr.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Amateur Radio WB8NUT<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 10, 2012 5:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> TAPR APRS Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [aprssig] OT: Yaesu to release digital amateur radio gear<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Seems you are the first person to offer that explanation. Please provide a source to back-up that statement as nothing I have read in the past shows it was developed by anyone for any reason other than amateur radio.<br><br>As for D-Star being developed specifically for amateur radio, from Wikipedia:<br><br>>>> <b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>D-STAR</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>(<b>Digital Smart Technologies for Amateur Radio</b><span style='background:white'>) is a digital voice and data protocol specification developed as the result of research by the<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Amateur_Radio_League" title="Japan Amateur Radio League"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0B0080;background:white;text-decoration:none'>Japan Amateur Radio League</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>to investigate digital technologies for<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio" title="Amateur       radio"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0B0080;background:white;text-decoration:none'>amateur radio</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white'>. While there are other digital on-air technologies being used by amateurs that have come from other services, D-Star is one of the first on-air and<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_%28information_technology%29" title="Packet (information technology)"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#0B0080;background:white;text-decoration:none'>packet</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white'>-based standards to be widely deployed and sold by a major radio manufacturer that is designed specifically for amateur service use.<<<</span><br><br>Duffy<br><a href="http://www.wb8nut.com">www.wb8nut.com</a><br><br>On 1/9/12 6:24 PM, Stephen H. Smith wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Actually it was developed by a consortium of Japanese radio mfrs as a potential digital radio protocol for commercial land mobile somewhat similar to DMR, and was then offered royalty-free to JARL for ham use to essentially "beta test" the system under real-world conditions. <br><br><br>One huge advantage of DMR is that you can achieve 4800 BPS data transfer in a 12.5 KHz channel or 9600 BPS in a classic 25 KHz channel (two 12.5KHz DMR channels bonded) for non-voice uses, even on VHF or UHF. <br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________ <br>aprssig mailing list <br><a href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</a> <br><a href="https://www.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig">https://www.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>