<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><br></div><div>On Dec 26, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Georg Lukas <<a href="mailto:georg@op-co.de">georg@op-co.de</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>* Pete Loveall AE5PL Lists <<a href="mailto:hamlists@ametx.com">hamlists@ametx.com</a>> [2011-12-26 18:04]:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>The difference is simple: messaging is communicating, beaconing is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>not.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>Both is communicating, even if the message of the latter is only</span><br><span>"here I am [and you can contact me on this QRG]".</span><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#005001"><br></font></div></blockquote><br><div>I have to agree with this. I see APRS-IS client as another tool in the Ham's tool box. The Ham may not have a aprs radio, but more and more have laptops, tablets, and smart phones. The nice thing is software based solutions can be updated faster than hardware based solutions. </div><div><br></div><div>For examples, I borrowed a commercial radio for ham repeaters so I would have something. Not even a keypad. It would not go down to 144.390 so I couldn't attach anything to communicate via aprs. Later, I was able to borrow a regular Ham radio. Still wasn't aprs. </div><div><br></div><div>A great deal of Ham Radios are not APRS. Just because they may use an alternative method to beacon which can include their voice freq, doesn't make them spam. </div><div><br></div><div>This past week we traveled down to Disneyland from Eureka. Only six showed up as QSY and tunable. </div><div><br></div><div>APRS is communications of what is going on. Beaconing is communicating where a fellow Ham is. Not allowing IS to RF is breaking communications and APRS potential.</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe a subscription based model with rules might be the answer. A reverse igate would be subscribed to rules that would be decided on as a group, and automatically updated in the clients. </div><div><br></div><div>KI6ZQY 73</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></html>