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    On 5/11/2011 10:32 AM, r gilson wrote:
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            <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">Interesting 433 for
              garage door openers and APRS for commercial stuff?  This
              area has repeater links and other stuff in this area?<br>
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    Per that (and I understand different regions may not adhere 100% to
    this)<br>
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    433.00-435.00 Aux/Repeater links<br>
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    My own repeater has a duplex link in this area.<br>
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    Remember, though, Amateur use is secondary from 420-449.99 in the
    US; and there are "Line A" and "Line B" geographic restrictions on
    use of parts of the band. <br>
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            <td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">--- On <b>Wed,
                5/11/11, Wes Johnston, AI4PX <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wes@ai4px.com"><wes@ai4px.com></a></i></b>
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                From: Wes Johnston, AI4PX <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wes@ai4px.com"><wes@ai4px.com></a><br>
                Subject: Re: [aprssig] FBI Equivalent Of An APRS Tracker<br>
                To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org"><aprssig@tapr.org></a><br>
                Date: Wednesday, May 11, 2011, 10:19 AM<br>
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                  <div>That would be a short range link... so  I guess
                    they do a "drive by" and download the data from
                    curbside as opposed to live tracking.  Of course it
                    would be easy (and smart) to make it beacon while
                    moving too.</div>
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                    Wes </div>
                  <div>---<br>
                    The world needs more geniuses with humility because
                    there are so few of us left.<br>
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                  <div class="yiv677149423gmail_quote">On Wed, May 11,
                    2011 at 04:36, Jon K Hellan <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div class="yiv677149423im">On 05/10/2011 05:23
                        PM, Peter Baumgartner wrote:<br>
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                            class="yiv677149423gmail_quote">So many
                            adjustments!   UHF "APRS"...<br>
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                            class="yiv677149423gmail_quote">The
                            transceiver chip looks pretty interesting.
                             Too bad they didn't figure<br>
                            out what the frequency was.<br>
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                      Just google the datasheet. It's an ISM 433 MHz
                      chip.<br>
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                      Jon LA4RT
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                           Looks like a SAW resonator on the board (RFM<br>
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                              class="yiv677149423gmail_quote">RFI172)
                               It didn't search on the RFM site:<br>
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                                href="http://www.rfm.com/products/sawresonators.php">http://www.rfm.com/products/sawresonators.php</a><br>
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                              class="yiv677149423gmail_quote">Then,
                              what's that that looks like an
                              unencapsulated ceramic chip by the<br>
                              MAX chip on the RF board??<br>
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                              class="yiv677149423gmail_quote">The chip
                              above the ZEMICX chip a memory  
                              ???4008CAAA  8k memory ??<br>
                              Perhaps it stores the data and
                              regurgitates it on command.<br>
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                              class="yiv677149423gmail_quote">If you
                              want ZEMICS App note(s) and data sheet(s).
                               There's several:<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
                                target="_blank"
                                href="http://www.datasheetarchive.com/XE1201-datasheet.html">http://www.datasheetarchive.com/XE1201-datasheet.html</a><br>
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                              class="yiv677149423gmail_quote">Now that
                              I've used the X-Bee modules and have some,
                              I'd be inclined to use<br>
                              them...<br>
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                              class="yiv677149423gmail_quote">--<br>
                               73, Steve, K9DCI   USN (Vet) MOT (Ret)
                              Ham (Yet)<br>
                              --<br>
                              I served during the cold war, so you can
                              continue to be served a cold one.<br>
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                              class="yiv677149423gmail_quote">---
                              Stephen H. Smith wrote:<br>
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                                class="yiv677149423gmail_quote">This
                                article from the Wired.com<br>
                                website shows the disassembly of an FBI
                                tracking device<br>
                                similar to an APRS tracker.<br>
                                <br>
                                .<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                  href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/gps-gallery">http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/gps-gallery</a>><br>
                                <br>
                                And an article about a person finding
                                one of these things<br>
                                on their car:<br>
                                <br>
                                .<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                                  href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/gps">http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/gps</a>><br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                --<br>
                                <br>
                                Stephen H. Smith    wa8lmf (at) <a
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                                  target="_blank" href="http://aol.com/">aol.com</a><br>
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