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I'm glad I'm not classed as people <grin><br>
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Ray vk2tv<br>
who uses 30m aprs messaging.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 21/02/11 06:39, Greg D. wrote:
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And why do people (appear to) think that the only purpose of the
IS system is to log position reports? When on the road, APRS-IS
is also the conduit to email and instant messaging with the Muggle
world, via the email/email2 and WinLink systems. I would think
that Messaging and SMS over HF could be quite useful when way off
the beaten path, especially if bi-directional.<br>
<br>
Greg KO6TH<br>
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> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 06:24:56 +1100<br>
> From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vk2tv@exemail.com.au">vk2tv@exemail.com.au</a><br>
> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS on HF<br>
> <br>
> So I'm still struggling to see what the point of HF APRS is
other than<br>
> allowing people out of range of VHF digis and gateways to get
their<br>
> position reports into aprs.fi.<br>
> <br>
> Does there *really* need to be another reason?<br>
> <br>
> Ray vk2tv<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 21/02/11 00:51, Julian, G4ILO wrote:<br>
> > Hi Jim.<br>
> ><br>
> > I don't think I am guilty of this misconception as I am
well aware<br>
> > that APRS is intended for giving information about the
local situation<br>
> > but that was one of the main reasons for my question
because you don't<br>
> > get any *local* information on HF.<br>
> ><br>
> > I have listened on the Net14 frequency a couple of times
but without<br>
> > any mobile traffic I didn't find it very interesting as
there wasn't<br>
> > much going on. Once you have sent a greetings message to
the other<br>
> > people who are on what else is there to do? There are
other ways to<br>
> > have such QSO's on HF. I do use APRS messaging a lot on
VHF but that<br>
> > is because I know other local APRS users on VHF so we
often have<br>
> > things to say to one another and in our mountainous area
we often<br>
> > can't talk direct.<br>
> ><br>
> > In response to Stephen's comment about RX-only gateways
breaking<br>
> > messaging that's true but when considering HF I don't
think there are<br>
> > many occasions when someone wants to message someone
they don't know<br>
> > 1,000 miles away. Most of the messages I have seen have
been direct<br>
> > "hello" messages between gateway operators or APRS
queries. If someone<br>
> > is driving through an area beaconing on HF the people on
VHF APRS in<br>
> > the area probably don't even know he is there, and he
won't be<br>
> > receiving any local information over the HF channel
(though thanks to<br>
> > the French cross-band gateways he may be receiving
information about<br>
> > things hundreds of miles away.)<br>
> ><br>
> > So I'm still struggling to see what the point of HF APRS
is other than<br>
> > allowing people out of range of VHF digis and gateways
to get their<br>
> > position reports into aprs.fi.<br>
> ><br>
> > Julian, G4ILO<br>
> > G4ILO's Shack: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.g4ilo.com">www.g4ilo.com</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On 20 February 2011 12:46, G0JXN
Jim<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:g0jxn.jim@ntlworld.com"><g0jxn.jim@ntlworld.com></a> wrote:<br>
> >> Hi Guys<br>
> >><br>
> >> Julian, there is this misconception that APRS is
only suitable to use for<br>
> >> "Position Reporting". Net14 has been setup with the
objective of<br>
> >> establishing a World Wide APRS Net for the purpose
of communication by the<br>
> >> exchange of messages using APRS. The indication of a
station's location is<br>
> >> used only to indicate that the station is QRV.
Considerations of tracking<br>
> >> and propagation are secondary.<br>
> >><br>
> >> If you have not already done so I would suggest that
you go to<br>
> >> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.net14.org.uk">www.net14.org.uk</a> and read through the Net14 Setup
Section which explains the<br>
> >> objective and methods to be use to achieve the
objective.<br>
> >><br>
> >> On a personal note I see that you are not a member
of the Yahoo Net14_APRS<br>
> >> Group. If you or anyone else is interested in
joining our Group there is a<br>
> >> link on the above website Welcome page.<br>
> >><br>
> >> 73<br>
> >><br>
> >> Jim, G0JXN/MB7UXN<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
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