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<DIV>The sys op programs the Digi to put out an object located at the appropriate lat/lon. This requires either remote programming capability or a trip to the digi (as I understand it)</DIV>
<DIV><BR>--<BR>73, Steve, K9DCI USN (Vet) MOT (Ret) Ham (Yet)<BR>--<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 6/16/10, john paterson jr <I><jpaterjr@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: john paterson jr <jpaterjr@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [aprssig] Hamfest and Local info<BR>To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig@tapr.org><BR>Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 9:00 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv1989625364>Sorry, I meant to say located away from the hamfest site.<BR><BR>John KC5LAA<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Bob Bruninga <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="http://us.mc1126.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bruninga@usna.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu">bruninga@usna.edu</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=gmail_quote>Regarding getting those HAMFEST objects out!<BR><BR>> Why not have someone... write a script<BR>> ... that queries the ARRL Hamfest database<BR>
<DIV class=im>> and injects this data onto the APRS-IS<BR>> by some sort of identifier that local<BR>> IGATES can push out.<BR><BR></DIV>Because that is just one symptom of the problem. The problem is that if no one is even interested enough in APRS in an area to push a HFEST object, then that means local meetings, events and ham activites are also being ignored.<BR><BR>THAT is the problem, that no one in an area is investing in INFO Serving the local area...<BR>
<DIV class=im><BR>> I don't know if it is possible, but I<BR>> always find it hard to get the enduser<BR>> interaction you are requesting.<BR><BR></DIV>ANother way to push this issue, might be to query the ARRL Hamfest calendar, then have a script to search APRS-IS for the HFEST objet and if missing, find the nearest 10 APRS (2-way) stations and then send them an automated message asking them why the hell they aren't putting out the local hamfest object...<BR><BR>It could also query QRZ or whatever to send them an Email too!<BR><BR>Bob, WB4APR<BR>
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<DIV class=h5><BR>>Anyways, just some thoughts I have been considering. I know it is not an<BR>>instant solution. I am working on the same thing for IRLP which is a set of<BR>>scripts allowing users on my repeater to query for the closest hamfest in<BR>>Michigan to my repeater. It then uses Cpestral to play back the closes ARRL<BR>>listed hamfest on any given date.<BR>><BR>>Mike<BR>>kb8zgl<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>> From: Robert Bruninga <<A href="http://us.mc1126.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bruninga@usna.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu">bruninga@usna.edu</A>><BR>>> Reply-To: <<A href="http://us.mc1126.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bruninga@usna.edu" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bruninga@usna.edu">bruninga@usna.edu</A>>, TAPR APRS Mailing List <<A href="http://us.mc1126.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aprssig@tapr.org" rel=nofollow
target=_blank ymailto="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</A>><BR>>> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:41:01 -0400<BR>>> To: 'TAPR APRS Mailing List' <<A href="http://us.mc1126.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aprssig@tapr.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</A>><BR>>> Subject: [aprssig] Hamfest and Local info<BR>>><BR>>> Are you doing your job for APRS in your area?<BR>>><BR>>> I was driving up I-81 in VA, and it was midnight. But I noticed<BR>>> on the front panel of the radio, HFEST-13 pop up. I was going<BR>>> right past it in about 30 minutes, and tomorrow was the 13th and<BR>>> I had to stop for the night anyway, so I stopped and next<BR>>> morning got to do a hamfest!<BR>>><BR>>> Without APRS, I would have missed that opportunity. And I did<BR>>> not even have to bother the talk-in, because I
could see exactly<BR>>> where it was on my GPS and just tell my GPS to go there!<BR>>><BR>>> That is why we ask that EVERY hamfest organization (YOU!) to do<BR>>> These things for APRS!<BR>>><BR>>> 1) Begin posting an HFEST.... object IN ADVANCE showing the<BR>>> hamfest.<BR>>> 2) Use the standard format HFEST-ddx<BR>>> 3) Where "dd" is the day of the month,<BR>>> 4) and "x" is a unique identifier if there are others on your<BR>>> same day<BR>>> 5) Inlcude FFF.FFFMHz as the first 10 bytes of text for the<BR>>> talk-in freq.<BR>>><BR>>> THen also<BR>>><BR>>> 6) Make sure that the TALK in operators have an APRS map in<BR>>> front of them so that they can SEE at least the APRS mobiles.<BR>>> This benefits the mobiles, and lets the operator learn about<BR>>> APRS, and as he finds out how valuable it is to him, he tells<BR>>>
others. Then the club learns the value of APRS...<BR>>><BR>>> YOU need to make sure YOUR group is doing this.<BR>>><BR>>> To see all the hamgest obejects, just do a wildcard search on<BR>>> HFEST* if someone else has the same date, then change your final<BR>>> "x" byte to be unique.<BR>>><BR>>> For example <A href="http://map.findu.com/hfest*" rel=nofollow target=_blank>map.findu.com/hfest*</A> curently shows about...<BR>>> Hummh... Exactly one, and it is in Puerto Rico. SURELY THERE<BR>>> ARE MORE HAMFESTS THIS MONTH IN THE USA AND WORLD!<BR>>><BR>>> This just shows us how many APRS operators are not doing their<BR>>> job of making APRS useful and practical to other users. Come on<BR>>> guys.. Sheesh...<BR>>><BR>>> IF YOU DON'T DO IT, WHO WILL?<BR>>><BR>>> If we do not put out USEFUL INFROMATION ON APRS, then there is<BR>>>
NOTHING TO DO!<BR>>><BR>>> See <A href="http://www.aprs.org/localinfo.html" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.aprs.org/localinfo.html</A><BR>>><BR>>> While I am ranting, is YOUR DIGI in your area putting out the<BR>>> receommended frequency objects for travelers? What about the<BR>>> Echolink or IRLP object.??? Your digi will NEVER do it unless<BR>>> YOU take some initiative and make sure it is getting done or get<BR>>> things going.<BR>>><BR>>> Frustrated..<BR>>> Bob, Wb4APR<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> aprssig mailing list<BR>>> <A href="http://us.mc1126.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aprssig@tapr.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:aprssig@tapr.org">aprssig@tapr.org</A><BR>>> <A href="https://www.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig" rel=nofollow
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