Hi Keith,<br><br>I hadn't thought of using: WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,SAR1-1,WIDE2-1<br><br>The only down side to that I can think of would be this scenario:<br><br>Tracker TXs: Packet A<br>Airborne Digi Sees SAR1-1, retransmits using up WIDE1-1*,WIDE2-1*,SAR1-1* leaving WIDE2-1: Packet B<br>
Mountain Digi Sees original (packet A), digis on first WIDE2-1<br>Mountain Digi Sees last unused WIDE2-1 from Airborne digi (packet B) and Digis a second time.<br><br>I am assuming that dup checking on the mountain digi should catch that last one right?<br>
<br>Greg<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Keith VE7GDH <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ve7gdh@rac.ca">ve7gdh@rac.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Greg NV6G wrote...<div class="im"><br>
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My thoughts were perhaps to set WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,SAR1-1 and turning on<br>
preempting on our airborne digi setting it to only digi on SAR1-1. My<br>
question here is, if the airborne digi preempts, hitting on SAR1-1<br>
what happens on the RF network with the WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1, will they be<br>
skipped or will they be processed?<br>
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I just gave it a try. In a T2-301 (5W radio with OT2m built into it) I<br>
enabled SARn-N with pre-emptive digipeating turned on for that alias. On<br>
a T2-135, I entered a path of TEST1-1,TEST-2-1,SAR3-3 and forced it to<br>
beacon. Watching the return coming back from the T2-301, all of the digi<br>
path ahead of the SARn-N were marked as used...<br>
<br>
<Digi Echo><br>
VE7GDH-2>APOT21,TEST1-1*,TEST2-1*,VE7GMI-3*,SAR3-2<br>
:!4848.96N\12327.30WkT2-135 P1<br>
<br>
A suggestion... if you used a path something like...<br>
<br>
WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,SARn-N,WIDE2-1<br>
<br>
and the airborne digi with pre-emptive digipeating (e.g. from Argent<br>
Data a Tracker 2... i.e. OT2m, T2-135 or T2-301) responded to the SARn-N, it would leave the remainder of the path intact. If the SARn-N was SAR1-1, then any regular WIDEn-N digis that heard it would respond. If the SARn-N was e.g. SAR2-2, the remainder of the SARn-N would have to be acted upon before any WIDEn-N digis would respond to remaining path. Of course, if you had an airborne SARn-N digi and several mountain-top SARn-N digis, you probably wouldn't need any additional path. If any of your teams happened to make it to a WIDEn-N digi or fill-in digi, the SARn-N would still be available if the airborne digi heard it.<br>
<br>
The advantage of being on your own frequency is no "QRM" from regular<br>
APRS users and the advantage of being on 144.390 (in North America) is<br>
that they could take advantage of the regular APRS infrastructure.<br>
<br>
I followed up my test with a beacon using a path of<br>
WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,SAR3-3 and watched it coming back from my own SSI digi<br>
and from the T2-301 which had pre-emptive digipeating turned on for<br>
SARn-N...<br>
<br>
<Digi Echo><br>
VE7GDH-2>APOT21,SSI*,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,SAR3-3<br>
!4848.96N\12327.30WkT2-135 P1<br>
<br>
<Digi Echo><br>
VE7GDH-2>APOT21,WIDE1-1*,WIDE2-1*,VE7GMI-3*,SAR3-2<br>
:!4848.96N\12327.30WkT2-135 P1<br>
<br>
Another time made a bit more noise...<br>
<br>
<Digi Echo><br>
VE7GDH-2>APOT21,SSI*,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1,SAR3-3<br>
!4848.96N\12327.30WkT2-135 P1<br>
<br>
<Digi Echo><br>
VE7GDH-2>APOT21,VE7DID-1*,WIDE2-1,SAR3-3<br>
!4848.96N\12327.30WkT2-135 P1<br>
<br>
<Digi Echo><br>
VE7GDH-2>APOT21,VE7DID-1*,SSI*,WIDE2*,SAR3-3<br>
:!4848.96N\12327.30WkT2-135 P1<br>
<br>
<Digi Echo><br>
VE7GDH-2>APOT21,VE7DID-1*,SSI*,WIDE2*,VE7GMI-3*,SAR3-2<br>
!4848.96N\12327.30WkT2-135 P1<br>
<br>
<Digi Echo><br>
VE7GDH-2>APOT21,WIDE1-1*,WIDE2-1,SAR3-3<br>
:!4848.96N\12327.30WkT2-135 P1<br>
<br>
<Digi Echo><br>
VE7GDH-2>APOT21,WIDE1-1*,VE7RNA-10*,WIDE2*,SAR3-3<br>
:!4848.96N\12327.30WkT2-135 P1<br>
<br>
Perhaps WIDE2-1,SARn-N would have been better from my QTH. My test was<br>
right beside my own SSI digi and of course within earshot of other<br>
WIDEn-N digis in at least a couple of directions.<br>
<br>
The "Tracker 2" series which is capable of pre-emptive digipeating is<br>
available from Argent Data at <a href="http://www.argentdata.com" target="_blank">www.argentdata.com</a>.<br>
<br>
73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH<br><font color="#888888">
--<br>
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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