<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 14, 2008 8:22 PM, Ev Tupis <<a href="mailto:w2ev@yahoo.com">w2ev@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>The DCC article itself addresses one need tactically and was offered to be sent to anyone who had an interest (offer still good).</blockquote><div><br>OK, I'd like a copy, but I will say again: if you want to discuss a particular shortcoming on the list, please tell us what it is!
<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">They care about emergency ration locations (fuel, food, shelter), location of ambulances and fire trucks, environmental conditions (WX, Atmospheric Opacity, Floodwater Levels, etc.), traffic speed within incident areas (tied to fixed location radar guns), electrical service delivery status, etc.
</blockquote><div><br>Why do you say in one paragraph they don't care about weather symbols, but in the next they do care about weather? Is this apparent contradiction an indication that there is something wrong with the way APRS clients display WX data?
<br><br>There are APRS symbols for fuel, food, water, ambulance, fire trucks, police cars, a flood symbol - the only thing I see missing is a specific "atmospheric opacity" symbol, but I would think the "haze" symbol would do in a pinch. There are even objects that correspond to lines and polygons - developed and used by WX folks, but certainly not restricted to their use.
<br><br>Are the symbols simply ugly? unintuitive? are there already symbols familiar to these folks that we should use instead?<br><br>One thing is how to get this data into APRS. Who has the data? does it exist, but isn't integrated?
<br><br>Who needs the data, and why can't they get it if they don't have it (i.e., where do APRS and hams come in)?<br><br>Are there commercial applications that meet these needs? If so, is there anything APRS can learn from them? For that matter, if they exist why aren't they already deployed?
<br></div></div><br><br>simply trying to understand the problem,<br>-Jason<br>kg4wsv