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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It's interesting to hear about all of this.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I flew from PDX to SLC back in 2000 carrying an
Icom AH-4 tuner that I bought at the SEA-PAC Hamfest. It won't do anything
without being connected to an Icom radio. I only had a carry-on bag.
This was back before 9-11. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The airport security folks got really concerned
about this obviously professionally manufactured unit that I could not
demostrate for them - even after I showed them my ham license. Being a
firearms instructor, I knew to ask for the Ground Security Coordinator.
(Remember this, they can step in and get people to engage their working brain
cells). </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I produced my Amateur Radio Operator license, and
showed them the documentation in the box with it that showed that it went with
another piece of gear. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>They told the front line folks, "Look, he has
a Federal license, and the box is legit." Turned to me, "Have a nice
flight". No further problems. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have also travelled with butt-in test sets and
other tools of the trade relating to telecommunications. When asked if I
could prove that it worked, I pulled out a screwdriver and offered to take the
wall jack behind them apart. They declined and I carried the whole kit on
board - including the screwdriver and the test set. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In all honesty, airline security is "harassment
security". It is designed to make the public feel safe so that they keep
spending their money on flying, and to catch the mentally unbalanced that decide
to do something on the spur of the moment. It is not designed to do
anything more, but it creates real problems for American Citizens that travel
legitimately with otherwise harmless items. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How many people were using cell phones on those
flights that hit the WTC? They navigated to it just fine. But
they have all of those phones built into those seats that they need to pay
for, I understand that. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm at CES right now, and I'm wondering how
security at McCarran is going to handle all of the trinkets and
baubles...</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=w2kb@comcast.net href="mailto:w2kb@comcast.net">w2kb@comcast.net</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aprssig@lists.tapr.org
href="mailto:aprssig@lists.tapr.org">'TAPR APRS Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=APBIDDLE@UNITED.NET
href="mailto:APBIDDLE@UNITED.NET">Alan P. Biddle</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [aprssig] TSA regs on
GPS?</DIV>
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<DIV>Last year I left my Cessna 177B Cardinal tied down at Jefferson City, MO
airport when it became apparant that the weather would be bad for at least a
week and I had to get back to work in NJ. Rented a car and drove home
using the portable Garmin 396 GPS from the plane in the auto mode. A
couple weeks later I flew Continental from Newark to St. Louis, MO to fly
back the Cardinal and had the GPS, charts, etc. as carryon. Upon
perusing the Continental magazine after getting on the plane, I noted
that a GPS is now a specifically permitted electronic device above 10,000
feet. So when the captain announced laptops, etc. OK I turned it
on. It was cool to see my Continental flight within a few miles of the
breadcrumb trail from my Cardinal flight west a few weeks earlier.
On of the flight attendants even came over now and then to watch its
display. <g></DIV>
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<DIV>So no regulations against GPS use, it's entirely at the discretion of the
airline.</DIV>
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<DIV>73, Ken W2KB</DIV>
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Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Alan P. Biddle"
<APBIDDLE@UNITED.NET> <BR><BR>> Hi, <BR>> <BR>> A bit off
topic, but I suspect many here travel with a regular GPS. I <BR>> checked
the TSA and AA web site, but could not find anything, one way or <BR>>
another, concerning transporting a GPS and bean bag mount in carry on bags.
<BR>> Any experience, or definitive reference? <BR>> <BR>> Alan
<BR>> WA4SCA <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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