> Except that an appallingly large number of hams licensed under the new era of dumbed-down >practically-zero-knowledge-required exams preceeded by 1-hour memorize-the-questions cram courses<br><div style="direction: ltr;">
<br>>> ARE TOTALLY CLUELESS<br><br>> about RF channels or anything else about radio!!!<br><br>Those words literally fell right out of my mouth before I even got to it lol. I spent a good part of lastyear pitching APRS to the local club and most of them thought it was some kind of device/network to track your vehicle and get you on the internet.
<br><br>I don't think it's the license testing that gives the Amateur Service clueless people necessarily. If someone is passionate about something and has a reasonable degree of intellect then he/she should be the type to learn things and do things correctly.
<br><br>But on the other hand, unfortunately we live in a world of convenience and the VEC's/FCC is just making it easier for people to get ham licenses. Could be good or bad, but the way I see it is that there have been clueless ham radio ops around for years. It's no different in the professional world. I work in telecommunications for a well known wireless company. Our "senior" RF tech couldn't even tell you how a radio works, effectively troubleshoot a T1, work with a computer etc. yet they promote this guy. (thankfully I have a different position and don't have to work under him, he's a real gem) After 5 years he just now found out what SWR and return loss means when he does antenna sweeps, I guess he could be considered an "aplliance" operator in the fashion ;)
<br><br>The real challenge is just learning how to deal with them :/ <br><br>Just had to share my rants/frustrations....<br><br>73's<br>Stephen <br>K1LNX<br><br></div><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/14/07,
<b class="gmail_sendername">Stephen H. Smith</b> <<a href="mailto:wa8lmf2@aol.com">wa8lmf2@aol.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Robert Bruninga wrote:<br>> APRS at 1200 baud sharring a common VHF frequency among ham<br>> radio operators for local situational awareness and information<br>> exchange is so different from the IP, that it is dangerous to
<br>> try to make any comparisons. The IP is designed for 99.999% use<br>> by appliance operators. That is why in the case of the IP, it<br>> depends on the brilliance of network designers like you to make<br>> it work.
<br>><br>> On the other hand, Ham radio operators are supposed to know how<br>> the RF channel works, be able to respond and re-constitute<br>> minimal communications with only what they bring with them...<br>
><br>><br><br><br>Except that an appallingly large number of hams licensed under the new<br>era of dumbed-down practically-zero-knowledge-required exams preceeded<br>by 1-hour memorize-the-questions cram courses<br>
<br> ARE TOTALLY CLUELESS<br><br>about RF channels or anything else about radio!!!<br><br><br><br>I experienced these three incidents within 12 hours of each other:<br><br><br>1) At a recent radio exhibit, a supposedly General-Class-licensed
<br>ham at a special event station spent 3 hours unsuccessfully trying to<br>make a contact. When I pointed out there was no antenna connected, they<br>replied that they didn't need an antenna because they "had an antenna
<br>tuner", pointing to the AC power supply for the Icom IC-751 !<br><br>2) 10-year-licensed ham seeing an APRS mapping display on my mobile<br>laptop in the car asks me "how do I get an Internet connection in the
<br>car?". I reply that there is no Internet; it's all received locally<br>off RF. Still total lack of comprehension. Turns out the visitor a)<br>assumed the only endpoint of APRS is findu and b) thought the only way
<br>to have maps on a computer is from the Internet. Visitor is utterly<br>dumbfounded to discover that a) APRS is intended to communicate BETWEEN<br>RADIOS, and b) a computer can actually do stuff without being connected
<br>to the Internet !!!<br><br>3) APRS newbie comes to my house with problems trying to get a dumb<br>tracker going in their car. 70-watt output transceiver wired to<br>battery with 26-gauge zip cord, causing a two volt drop on transmit.
<br>Again, assumption that APRS is an AVL system with it's end point on the<br>Internet at findu. The usual complaint "I'm not showing up on<br>findu.". I ask if they have listened to their own transmissions in a
<br>nearby radio. Seem uncomprehending. I explain that the transmitted<br>audio level from the tracker (i.e. deviation) is critical, and that the<br>only way to set it is to monitor the transmitted signal in another radio
<br>or receiver. Still lack of comprehension. Then they insist that<br>they don't need to monitor the transmitted signal "because they have a<br>Windows program to calibrate the Tiny Track" !!!<br><br>
These were all supposedly "licensed hams". Arrrrrgggh !!!!!<br><br><br><br><br><br>--<br><br>Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) <a href="http://aol.com">aol.com</a><br>EchoLink Node: 14400 [Think bottom of the 2M band]
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