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</head><BODY BGCOLOR="#F8F8F8" ><div><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;">A better test would be WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 in one direction and WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2 in the other direction.</SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;">I have been meaning to try that on a trip to Las Vegas. There seem to be a few big holes in coverage along I40 in Arizona. I am not sure if I am not hitting a digi, or if I am not reaching an IGate. Even in New Mexico, which has excellent coverage, there are areas that more reliably reach the internet with WIDE1-1,WIDE2-2 from a mobile.<br />--</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;">J. Gary Bender, WS5N</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;">Fence Lake, New Mexico USA</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /><br />On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 11:56:53 -0800, Tom Smith wrote:<br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> My concern is the mountain top digis having internet access. I'll do a</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> test: WIDE3-1 out and WIDE2-1 back in Nevada and Utah. Tom Smith KD6SOJ</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> ----- Original Message -----</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> From: "Cap Pennell" <cap@cruzio.com></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> Sent: 09/08/2007 10:21 AM</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> Subject: RE: [aprssig] A test for APRS in some lessor traveled Western areas</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> You guys could _really_ benefit from _another_ careful read-through of</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> <a href="http://web.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs/fix14439.html">http://web.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs/fix14439.html</a> and the links from</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> that page.</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> Best bet: WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 mobile; WIDE2-2 (or less) fixed or base. Three</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> (or more) hops in all directions is not the answer for courtesy, nor</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> rarely</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> much help for vanity.</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> In remote areas the trick is mostly getting packets from your station</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> into _the first_ digi called for in your digipath. Broader digipaths</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> don't</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> help</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> there. Many areas are far less "remote" than a visitor's first</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> impression might indicate. High mountains often have digis on top</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> providing access from a vast area.</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> A fill-in digi only operates packets addressed to WIDE1-1. The other</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> digis</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> will operate packets addressed to WIDE1-1 or WIDE2-2 or WIDE2-1 or WIDE3-</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> 1 (while inserting their callsign in the path's "history"). This is the</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> "New</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> Paradigm", traceable WIDEn-N. RELAY and WIDE and TRACE and TRACEn-N are</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> completely obsolete (pass it on).</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> Many digis will give only one hop to any WIDE3-N address (that is, WIDE3-</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> 3 or WIDE3-2 or WIDE3-1). They operate/digipeat the packet while</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> adjusting the path so there will be no further hops ("trapping" the</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> excess hops). Still, any modern high "S overlay" digi will give WIDE2-1</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> or WIDE3-1 (or WIDE1-1) the same one hop.</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> Confused about any of this stuff at all? Then use WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> mobile; WIDE2-2 (or less) fixed or base. Transmit only as frequently as</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> your intended "audience" requires to fulfill their objectives.</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> (And please don't even consider putting up any new digipeater at all</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> until your confusion is all gone and you've had full discussions about</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> the VHF network's _needs_ with all the operators of existing digipeaters</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>> in your network/region). 73, Cap KE6AFE</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:maroon;">>></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> _______________________________________________</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> aprssig mailing list</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> aprssig@lists.tapr.org</SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;color:navy;">> <a href="https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig">https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig</a></SPAN><SPAN style="font-size:10pt;"><br /><br /></SPAN></div>
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