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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=968480815-20072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The issue is not with boycotting
anyone.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=968480815-20072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The issue is that T2 *cut off* the CWOP users with an
hour's notice, as I recall. Yes, this was reversed, but they were
*CUT OFF*.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=968480815-20072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>This is the basis for the "unreliable" statement, nevermind
any arguments you may want to make about T2. If it happened once due to
politics/policies, don't think it can't happen again. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=968480815-20072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>If I was using any service and suddenly found myself unable
to use the service due to a policy change by the sysops/admins, and then was
allowed back on later due to a reversed decision, I too would continue to deem
this service unreliable. If there was a second option, and in this case
there is, I would not have returned. Outages are one thing, changes in
policy are another.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=968480815-20072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Cutting off the CWOP users was IMO as unprofessional an act
one can commit on amateur radio or the internet (and in this case, both).
In our hobby we have a fine line between hobby/play and hobby/service.
Taking down a 1200MHZ FM Repeater you and two of your buddies played on is one
thing, taking down your primary 2M Repeater used for SKYWARN in tornado alley is
another. There is a moral obligation to those you are serving, and
violating that is non-forgivable. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=968480815-20072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>What happened here was very much under the category
hobby/service, but it was treated like hobby/play, or even hobby/playing
god. For that, tagging the service as "unreliable" is much more than
a professional response to such an unprofessional act.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=968480815-20072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>dm</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org
[mailto:aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard Nicholas
Piper IV<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 20, 2007 11:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B> TAPR APRS
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: APRS-IS backbone operators - WAS: Re:
[aprssig] findU Messages<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Matt I was not saying that all data is not accurate. I was talking about
CWOP which NOAA has said it does not want on T2 servers. I will not get into
why becuase we have all seen the messages from Phill and Stave on this.
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<DIV>What I am getting at is the it is in the best instrest of APRS and Ham
Radio if we all could just put our past behind use and realize that some of us
rely on data sent to APRS-IS and that data needs to be as accurate as possible.
Thus my reason for connecting to no-T2 when I need to see CWOP info. </DIV>
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<DIV>I am not trying to bash anyone here. I am just trying to make a point that
in order for younger folks to come on board and stay with Ham Radio we need not
get into aurguments and bash each other. I speak from experence on this as I
left a Ham Club in the past becuase of the aurguments and bashing that went on.
It's bad for Ham Radio and trust me PEOPLE WILL GO TO ANOTHER HOBBY! </DIV>
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<DIV>Folks being 26 I see that we need to get "new blood" into Ham Radio.
However, I don't think the new blood is going to come on when they join a list
like this on or others that have to do with Ham Radio and see all the basing and
aurguments that are going on. Ham Radio is suposed to be a fun enjoyable hobby,
but to me right now it's not as I have to read email almost weekly where people
are basing this or that person. What ever happened to the "TRUE MEANING OF HAM
RADIO?" The one where someone wanted to help a friend out? The one where you
didn't bash or have a aurgement with another operator? The one where we all go
alone and helped each other out even when we thought the other operator was
wrong, they may but; but if we helped them out them both of us could learn.
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<DIV>To Steve with the Core, why not work to support Ham Radio and work with T2?
Yes I know that I have "boycotted" them in the past but the reason I say this
know is that God is showing me that in order for Ham Radio to progress we all
MUST WORK TOGETHER AND STOP THE BASHING AND AURGUING. </DIV>
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<DIV>Ok I know this email is long but folks this all needed to be stated. Agian
lets all stop the bashing and aurguing.</DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>