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color=#0000ff size=2>Armchair Lawyer Time!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=476110421-19042007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>97.113 (a)(3) Communications in which the station licensee
or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on behalf
of an employer. Amateur operators may, however, notify other amateur operators
of the availability for sale or trade of apparatus normally used in an amateur
station, provided that such activity is not conducted on a regular
basis;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=476110421-19042007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Sounds to me like since a Hamfest is an event, you could
slide by. The phrase "on a regular basis" stands out here.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=476110421-19042007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>A Ham Radio store is a full time, brick and mortar
operation, and thus any advertising of that store would be
prohibited.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>I would also say that since, as previously mentioned, these
are employees of HRO, you don't even get past the first
sentence.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>dm</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org
[mailto:aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Thomas
t<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:58 PM<BR><B>To:</B> TAPR APRS
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [aprssig] Is this APRS Spamming
??<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Although I think that report has crossed the line, I would not want to see
ham radio stores or hamfests scared away from reporting their positions.
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Even though I guess someone could call a simple position report of a store
(without text) a commercial message, I would like to see simple position reports
of stores/hamfests without an ad like message continue. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Now I think we have two questions....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>1. What can a commercial entity/hamfest report, ie. can it post a
telephone number or operating hours? How about a
general description of what they carry?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>2. Aren't the digipeater/igate operators technically liable for
reporting an inappropriate message like spam (a commercial message)?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think someone well known and respected in APRS (nuge nuge WB4APR)
should post a general guideline for hamstores/hamfests...until then I
think it might be unfair to get overly upset with HRO, because the exact
location of that line between a public service position report and a position
report that crosses the line can sometimes be hard to determine. If a
position report is ok, why not a list of hours or a tel number so that the
position report is useful? Well if you have all that info, dont users
still need to know what the store carries in general to know if the store can
meet their needs? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The sooner we have generally accepted written guidelines the better.
There are plenty of stores/hamfests out in the world, do we wait for each to
accidentally cross the line or can we at least give people selling things
(stores & hamfests) a generally accepted set of guidelines to help show them
the way? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>73,</DIV>
<DIV>Tom-N2YTF<BR><BR><B><I>"Stephen H. Smith" <wa8lmf2@aol.com></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I
just happened to see this message while monitoring raw packets on <BR>144.39
in Southern California
recently<BR><BR><BR><BR>W6HRO>APU25N,W6SCE-10*,qAS,K6KOZ:=3350.70N\11756.53WhHam
Radio Outlet <BR>Anaheim {UIV32N}<BR><BR>140003zCOME ON DOWN AND CHECK OUT THE
D-STAR ICOMS !<BR><BR>.<BR>Is this really appropriate content for
non-commercial amateur radio
<BR>operations?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--<BR><BR>Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at)
aol.com<BR>EchoLink Node: 14400 [Think bottom of the 2M band]<BR>Home Page:
http://wa8lmf.com --OR-- http://wa8lmf.net<BR><BR>NEW! World Digipeater
Map<BR>http://wa8lmf.net/APRSmaps<BR><BR>JavAPRS Filter Port 14580
Guide<BR>http://wa8lmf.net/aprs/JAVaprsFilters.htm<BR><BR>"APRS 101"
Explanation of APRS Path Selection &
Digipeating<BR>http://wa8lmf.net/DigiPaths<BR><BR>Updated "Rev H" APRS
http://wa8lmf.net/aprs<BR>Symbols Set for UI-View,<BR>UIpoint and
APRSplus:<BR><BR>.
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