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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=499260005-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I think virtualization is the way to go. Before long,
you won't be able to run DOS and 16-Bit Windows apps on a current version of
Windows, and virtualization like VMware or M$ VirtualPC will be needed.
It's time to think ahead.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=499260005-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=499260005-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I have several Windows 3.1 VMs I have built for programming
old Motorola Radios, and it works pretty well, using surprisingly
little CPU. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=499260005-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=499260005-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>M$ VirtualPC is free on Windows platforms, and if you make
a FreeDOS image with APRSDOS on it, anyone could run it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=499260005-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=499260005-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>VMware is not free, but the player to play the VM's one
creates, is free. You could do the same here with FreeDOS and APRSdos, and
even run the image under Linux since there is a VMware player for Linux as
well.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=499260005-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=499260005-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I keep wondering why there hasn't been a flood of APRS
related VMs floating around yet. JavAPRSsrvr IGATE VMs, APRSDOS VMs,
Xastir VMs, etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=499260005-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Danny Messano</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=499260005-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>KE4RAP</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org
[mailto:aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Scott
Miller<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 08, 2007 11:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'TAPR
APRS Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [aprssig] dos on a winxp
machine<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=177442404-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>There's a command shell, but keep in mind that it's not
DOS. Windows hasn't had DOS under the hood in a long time, and the
NT/2000/XP operating systems are vastly different inside, closer to something
like VMS (to which it's at least distantly related) than any single-user,
real-mode OS. They at least make an attempt at DOS compatibility, but you
have to remember that there are many layers of abstraction between the DOS
environment and the hardware now. DOS programs used to have direct access
to pretty much everything in the machine, but that's not possible in a modern
OS.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=177442404-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=177442404-09012007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>That said, for all I know APRSdos might work just fine
in XP. If not, just load yourself up a virtual PC with VMware. You
might need to download FreeDOS to run on it if you don't have your DOS disks
handy. It took more than a decade, but they finally made it to version
1.0. Anyone know if it works with APRSdos?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=177442404-09012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Scott</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=177442404-09012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>N1VG</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org
[mailto:aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ray
McKnight<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 08, 2007 8:14 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'TAPR
APRS Mailing List'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [aprssig] dos on a winxp
machine<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Doesn’t XP have a
boot menu – hit F8 after the BIOS finishes its thing, before</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Winderz says it’s
loading?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From there you select
to boot to DOS prompt.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I believe you can
have the boot menu shown automatically</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Every time the
machine boots, but that may require a registry key edit.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>flknbry<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, January 08, 2007
19:56<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
aprssig@lists.tapr.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [aprssig] dos on a winxp
machine</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How does on get into dos on a
machine running xp.Not just the dos prompt through programs.I wish to run
dosaprs.Also i would like to change the home map to mine.when i hit the home
key.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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