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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" color=#000000 size=2>Hi...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Well, here are my findings,
for what it's worth...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Windows 2000 Pro (fully licensed
and legit and up to date.)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>The CD (Deluxe) player does not
produce any sound, though it appears to "play" the disk, that is, you can hear
the disk drive start and move the pickup about etc, and the numbers go
round, but no sound.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>WiMP (V 9.0.x.x.xx) Plays it
OK, even ignoring the first data track, so getting the announcements right for
the displayed track numbers. Interesting watching the tones with some of
the spectral waterfall type of visualisations...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Interestingly, the W2k CD player,
does not produce any sound with a genuine audio CD. Hmmm..
Currently listening to the 1492 CD (Vangelis) via WiMP while I type
this.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>As to the data track. (TNC
test disk in another drive now, a DVD-+RW)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>The RTF file is corrupt, all I get
(in any of 3 RTF compatible readers) is pages of square blocks, the Null
character I think.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Several of the .gif's are also
corrupt, neither IE6 nor Paint Shop Pro (V7) will open them. IE shows the
frame with a red X in the top left. PSP burps and says it's not a valid
gif format file.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>1200-2200-DeEmph.gif is OK, as is
the "flat" version of this. All the other .gif's are bad.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>The DigiStar.ico file is also
corrupt, just a load of null bytes.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>The Autorun.inf file, is likewise
corrupt, just a line of block characters.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>At least I can play the audio
tracks on a "real" audio player!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>My guess is your original Roxio
file was OK, but odd things happened during the conversion to the Nero
format.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>It's worth noting, that there were
some recent updates for part of the Roxio system, as some of the drivers caused
compatibility trouble with other programs, auto updates etc...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>All the best.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Dave G0WBX.</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Stephen H. Smith
[mailto:wa8lmf2@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Mon 06/11/2006 17:22<BR><B>To:</B> TAPR
APRS Mailing List<BR><B>Cc:</B> Dave Baxter<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Re: *** APRS
TNC Test CD Now Available *** --- Can't Play It<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>dave@emv.co.uk wrote:<BR>>
Hi..<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Thinking about it, having a "data" track at
the beginning, not the end<BR>> of the compilation may indeed screw up some
players, probably the more<BR>> capable ones too, after all my old Discman
just "played" it (silently)<BR>> as any other track, perhaps some players
"see" a data track, then assume<BR>> the rest is data? Most other mixed
format CD's I've seen, have the<BR>> audio stuff first, then the other
content... Not tried it myself with<BR>> WiMP
yet.<BR>><BR>> WiMP, is however renown for sometimes doing odd things with
mixed<BR>> content disks, and also for the several odd way's to make it
behave,<BR>> though it does seem to vary from one machine to
another.<BR>><BR>> <BR><BR><BR>1) I created the
disk originally with Roxio Easy CD Creator 6.0 . <BR>CD
Creator's default behavior for a "Mixed Mode Disk Project" is to<BR>place the
data track first, and then the audio track(s). <BR><BR>2) Using
Easy CD Creator, I then made an image file in Roxio .CIF<BR>format because the
widely used and nearly universal.ISO format only<BR>supports data-onlyCDs; not
audio or mixed-mode disks.<BR><BR>3) I initially only posted the
disk image in the Adaptec/Roxio .CIF<BR>format.<BR><BR>4) Someone
else then converted the .CIF image to Nero .NRG format<BR>using a third-party
format-conversion utility. Given that all the<BR>complaints so far on various
lists has involved disks made from the Nero<BR>version, I am wondering if the
CIF->NRG conversion was less than<BR>perfect. I simply have no way of
knowing if the conversion was<BR>perfectly accurate. Since I don't have or
use Nero Burning ROM, I can't<BR>test or vouch for the .NRG version of the
file.<BR><BR><BR>Finally, <BR><BR>5) Win 2000's "CD Player"
applet (not Media Player) plays the disk<BR>just fine, allowing you to easily
skip over the first (data) track that<BR>some CD drives mistakenly think is an
unplayable audio track. The<BR>applet "CDplayer.exe" produces
a user interface that looks like a<BR>typical car stereo CD player. It is
a single 330K exe file located in<BR>the /SYSTEM32 subdirectory underneath the
main Windows directory. <BR>This file requires no installation
or hooks to the Windows registry. It<BR>can be copied from a Win 2K system
and easily used with Windows XP.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--<BR><BR>Stephen H.
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