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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This sounds like the perfect application
for a Wiki. Scott, if you hosted an APRS Wiki, that would be great. It could be
seeded with information gathered from around the net and each one of us could
add/edit content in our own favorite areas.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For that matter, this could be done with
an article(s) in Wikipedia, no hosting required. I just checked and there’s
already a short article there. Why don’t we just flesh that out?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ron KI4KKD<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org
[mailto:aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st="on">scott@opentrac.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 30, 2006
12:57 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">TAPR
APRS Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [aprssig] ARRL Web
Site Propagating Out-Of-Data APRS Into</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Didn't someone offer a domain (was it
aprs.net?) as a single repository for official APRS information? I'd
really like to see that developed. No offense to Bob, but the USNA site
is hard to sort through, looks like a personal website because of the ~ style
URL, and I think some people still have trouble getting there - at least to the
.mil site that shows up first in Google.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>There really needs to be a single,
well-maintained, easy-to-digest source for up-to-date APRS info. Try this
sometime: Imagine you know nothing about APRS, then go to Google and see how
long it takes you to actually figure out what it's all about today. The top
two links get you DOS screen shots and ugly Java maps - nothing to even hint at
what's available in modern clients, or online through OpenAPRS. In the
top three links, the best description you get is "<a
href="http://www.cave.org/aprs/aprswhat.html">APRS is a shareware program</a>
that takes advantage of the availibility of inexpensive GPS receivers to
display the locations of moving stations on your PC. By connecting your PC
computer to any radio network via an innexpensive ($130) radio data modem, then
all stations can see the mo vements of all other stations..." which is
misleading and incomplete.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Yeah, I know it means a lot of work to
build and maintain. I don't have time to do it myself - I have a hard
enough time keeping my own information up to date. But I've made money
from APRS, and I don't mind contributing money back to the cause. I'm
willing to chip in to pay for professional web design and copy editing if
that's what it takes. In fact, I've got my sister, N6TME, doing some
research on that now (at very reasonable family rates =). She's a
professional tech writer, and is coming into this with no real prior knowledge
of APRS, which gives her a perspective similar to most new or prospective APRS
users.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I'm also willing to provide hosting if
necessary. If anyone's interested in taking on the visual design, or
knows someone who's good at that, let me know.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Scott</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>N1VG</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org [mailto:aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Herb Gerhardt<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 30, 2006
9:32 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">TAPR
APRS Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [aprssig] ARRL Web
Site Propagating Out-Of-Data APRS Into</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>That is one of the unfortunate things
about the internet and published books and manuals.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Since we switched last year to the new
Paradigm of APRS, there are lots of published books, manuals and web sites that
are no longer correct! It will take time to fix all that but some of it
will never get fixed and will mislead some of the new folks for years to come.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>IT IS OUR JOB TO GET THE MESSAGE
OUT. When you see a new station on your screen, check it to make sure
they are using the correct path. I do that in my area and it not only
fixes their problem in a hurry, but it also gives the new user an opportunity
to meet one of the old timers who is willing to help get them going in the
right direction. Remember the stations using the old paths will only show
up on your screen if they are in simplex range of your station, so not only can
you help them fix their problem, but you might also make a new friend! If
you don't jump in and help them out, they will probably get discouraged real
fast and we will probably loose them from our hobby. Everyone needs to
see things work when they first try out a new thing.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>So, lets all do our job and help steer new
APRS users in the right direction.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Herb,
KB7UVC<br>
NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator<br>
Our WEB Site: <a href="http://www.nwaprs.info/" target="_blank">http://www.nwaprs.info</a><br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org
[mailto:aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of</span></b> Stephen H. Smith<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March 29, 2006
9:25 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">TAPR
APRS Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [aprssig] ARRL Web Site
Propagating Out-Of-Data APRS Into</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I just stumbled
across this URL:<br>
<a
href="http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/aprs/pos-reporting.html">http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/aprs/pos-reporting.html</a><br>
<br>
<br>
It is still advising newbies to use "RELAY,WIDE,WIDE" and advocating
operating on 145.79 ! ! Not to mention the link to the now-obsolete .MIL
domain version of Bob's website.<br>
<br>
It also has this astonishing statement:<br>
<br>
"A GATE station has a very wide coverage area (500 miles or
more)." after listing the distinction between RELAY and WIDE,
implying that GATES are some kind of superstation on two meters.<br>
<br>
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