<DIV>Hi Dave; </DIV>
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<DIV>Do you return all your electronic grounds to a common ground point? It's important in test and monitoring equipment; but, I was wondering about autos?</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim.<BR><BR><B><I>Dave Baxter <dave@emv.co.uk></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Take care Brad.<BR><BR>If you ground the rig to the vehicle frame, you shouldn't really use the<BR>fuse in the radio ground lead. It's only needed in that lead if it goes<BR>direct to the battery -ve, as there is a less than rare chance that the<BR>car's own battery ground can become intermittent in time, so engine<BR>cranking current can pass through your radio to ground, with, err,<BR>smokey and expensive results.<BR><BR>If you ground the radio direct to the frame, a fuse there if that blew,<BR>will then cause the radio's own power current to pass down the coax<BR>outer, or other accessory grounds that may not be able to take that<BR>current, especially on high power TX.<BR><BR>If you sketch out a typical auto electrical setup (just the basics,<BR>battery, starter, gen', but including the grounds) showing the exact way<BR>things are all joined together, including your radio, then
"cut" the<BR>battery ground lead, and work out where the big currents go, you'll see<BR>what could happen.<BR><BR>If you think it doesn't, beware, it's quite common for vehicle ground<BR>leads to go "High Resistance" but remain mechanically sound. I've seen<BR>enough over the years, and had one electrical fire when driving due to<BR>"interesting" British fusing philosophy, that I'd not want to hear of<BR>anything like that happening again.<BR><BR>(Most auto electrical problems are related in one way or another to bad<BR>grounding somewhere, but it takes skill and understanding to diagnose<BR>properly.)<BR><BR>To make sure this doesn't happen, I have two grounds between the engine<BR>and the frame. One ground from the battery to the frame, and one<BR>between the battery and the engine! No odd electrical noises on TX or<BR>RX, the battery always charges well, and it turns the lump over<BR>extremely well on a cold frosty morning, and next to no chance of any<BR>damage to accessories
like radios etc...<BR><BR>All my RF kit, has it's own ground to the frame, independent of the<BR>engine or battery, so they only need fuses in the + leads.<BR><BR>Stay safe..<BR><BR>Dave G0WBX.<BR><BR><BR><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org <BR>> [mailto:aprssig-bounces@lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Brad [VE3BSM]<BR>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:41 PM<BR>> To: 'TAPR APRS Mailing List'<BR>> Subject: RE: [aprssig] RE: D700 Honda Odyssey Mounting Options<BR>> <BR>> >><BR>> If you run a seperate power cable for the rig, including the <BR>> -ve lead direct to the battery, remember to fuse the -ve wire <BR>> too, or a loose battery ground strap (it does happen) can <BR>> become very expensive when you next try to start the engine!..<BR>> <<<BR>> <BR>> I'm not going to run a separate -ve lead. I'm aware it'd be <BR>> better to do so but I barely fit the +ve lead through the <BR>>
available grommet. I'll just ground to the frame. I am, <BR>> however, going to fuse the -ve lead this time.<BR>> <BR>> Brad.<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>aprssig mailing list<BR>aprssig@lists.tapr.org<BR>https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Jim. w9nje@sbcglobal.net <br><br>If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.