[aprssig] IGATE message routing bug?

Randy Love rlove31 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 19 09:18:18 EST 2016

Why don't you start by going around to every every RX only IGate operator
and convincing them that they it is wrong to not have a two-way IGate? If
the only Igate in an area is RX only, that definately breaks the system.

If you want gating to be reliable you have to get rid of receive only gates.
Just saying.


On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Steve Dimse <steve at dimse.com> wrote:

> > On Nov 16, 2016, at 3:00 AM, Jim Alles <kb3tbx at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  I do intend to disrupt the "but we've always done it this way"
> thinking, however.
> Keep in mind is why this thinking exists. There is no central authority
> that can dictate change. In the case of a change in the way IGates operate
> this means convincing a dozen or more IGate authors to update their
> software, and hundreds of IGate operators to upgrade. This is hard even
> without the complication that one of the most popular IGate packages hasn't
> been updated in years because of the author's death.
> A good idea can, over time, come to be widely implemented. Changes that
> require hardware changes like the various proposals that would obsolete
> D7/00s are especially difficult. Standardization for standardization sake
> is doomed to failure in the APRS community, both because of this inertia
> and because situations vary widely within the APRS community.
> There certainly is ambiguity in the spec documents. Some of this is
> accidental and some of it intentional. Accidental because documentation is
> something most of us hate and spend little time on. Even during the big
> push of a dozen people that created the APRS spec document real life took
> many of as away at different times as we worked our way through each of the
> formats, so plenty was missed. Intentional because either the document
> dictates various ways something was already be done, or because we see
> different ways it could be done, and want individuals to have the right to
> decide which is best for them.
> APRS is, above all, a practical system; keep in mind the practical issues
> of anything you consider proposing.
> Steve K4HG
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