[aprssig] How gps works
Joe Jesson
jjesson at voyager.net
Sun May 6 13:05:09 EDT 2012
A great GPS freeware tool to analyze GPS data is u-Center,
http://www.u-blox.com/en/evaluation-tools-a-software/u-center/u-center.html
NMEA data is sent to this tool and the data attributes are shown graphically
as multiple cockpits.. This is a tool I have used over several years in my
commercial tracking biz to solve many GPS problems (excessive DOP errors was
one of the most recent problems which u-Center helped diagnose).. The latest
version has KML integration Google Earth links and a video input to capture
the environment the antenna resides..
Joe Jesson, KC2VGL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec at tech-software.net>
To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig at tapr.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [aprssig] How gps works
> You might have been getting interference from DME ?
>
> SSR RADAR is TX on 1030 and RX on 1090 MHz
>
> GPS is 1575 MHz
>
> - Andrew -
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andre" <aprs at pe1rdw.demon.nl>
> To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig at tapr.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 12:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] How gps works
>
>
>> On Sun, 06 May 2012 08:34:19 +0200, Stephen H. Smith <wa8lmf2 at aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/6/2012 1:49 AM, Andrew Rich wrote:
>>>> Does seeing "part" of the sky make a difference ?
>>>>
>>>> If I sit beside a buidling were I can only see 1/2 the sky does my
>>>> position skew ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> NO. It's a very binary process. Either the part of the sky you can see
>>> has enough satellites in view for a fix. Or, if there are not enough
>>> receivable, the unit "spins it's wheels" endlessly in the acquisition
>>> phase with no fix.
>>>
>>> Typically as the pattern of satellites visible from your location
>>> changes, and the number visible fluctuates above and below the magic
>>> minimum, the unit will keep shifting between a 4-satellite 3-D fix
>>> (altitude as well as lat/long), a 3-satellite 2-D fix (no altitude info)
>>> and no fix at all.
>>>
>>> When you get into the "urban canyons" of high-rise big city downtown
>>> areas, GPS units frequently "go nuts" due to signals being blocked, and
>>> by apparent time delays for given satellites abruptly changing due to
>>> multipath reflections off glass-faced buildings.
>>>
>>> The same thing happens frequently on winding mountain roads, especially
>>> deep in canyons. The receiver is constantly acquiring satellites only
>>> to lose them again when you go around a curve, forcing the receiver to
>>> search for and acquire other satellites, as the visible part of the sky
>>> keeps changing.
>>>
>> It's not just visabilety of the sky that can make gps go nuts, I have
>> worked as an assistant surveyer for a while in Rotterdam and everytime we
>> where in range of the airport we would get big deviation errors,
>> sometimes more then half a meter and this was with a DGPS system and at
>> least 8 satellites locked, waiting a few minutes would bring the
>> deviation back to a few CM making at acceptable again for surveying
>> pipes.
>> We never figured out what it was but we assumed it was the airport radar.
>>
>> --
>> 73 Andre PE1RDW
>>
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