[aprssig] radio aprs vs internet aprs
Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
ldeffenb at homeside.to
Tue Mar 20 10:06:19 EDT 2012
And for a good introduction on why your APRS message may or may not make
it across the -IS/RF boundary, read:
http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:aprs-messaging-explained
It talks about -IS to -IS messaging (nearly always works), RF to RF
messaging (works if you're in simplex or digipeater range), as well as
RF to -IS to RF (least reliable as it requires properly configured
(read: transmitting) IGates on both ends).
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 3/20/2012 9:45 AM, Mike Goldweber wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> This makes sense, and it clarifies some other observations I've made
> recently. Thank you very much for explaining it. This gives me some
> more things to explore.
>
> Sincerely,
> Mike
> KB3IXO
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] radio aprs vs internet aprs
> From: Eric Lorenz K9LGE <k9lge at emlorenz.com
> <mailto:k9lge at emlorenz.com>>
> Date: Tue, March 20, 2012 9:35 am
> To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig at tapr.org
> <mailto:aprssig at tapr.org>>
>
> Hi Mike,
> No problem...when you use APRSDroid, you are connected to what is
> called APRS-IS. Is it basically as you describe ...a set of APRS
> nodes connected over the internet. By default, APRS-IS is separate
> from the RF side of APRS. There are stations that may choose to
> gate -IS traffic over to local RF (usually a limited stream- when
> users are passing within a certain radius of a station, so locals
> can see all traffic). Usually it is more the other way
> around...where the RF side is getting gated to IS. You will find
> here a great...'diversity' of opinion on the merits of mixing RF
> and IS APRS traffic. Personally, under controlled guidelines, I
> think it is beneficial to do so. But I am only one opinion here.
> :-). So that is why you don't by default see your traffic come up
> on local RF...you only will if there is someone reverse-gating
> your traffic to RF.
> Eric K9LGE
> On Mar 20, 2012 8:24 AM, "Mike Goldweber" <mike at mikegoldweber.name
> <mailto:mike at mikegoldweber.name>> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> On Saturday volunteered at a 5K race to help with the
> communications support. While I was sitting in my car waiting
> for the race to begin, I thought it might be fun to turn on
> the APRSDroid app to see if any of the other volunteers would
> appear on my display. Several did, which was exciting (bear
> with me, I'm new to all aspects of digital radio). So, I
> decided to go a step further and I attempted to send a message
> through the application. Apparently the message did and did
> not get through.
>
> The next day I ran into the guy who organized and ran the
> communications. He told me that he got the message when he
> linked his system to the internet, but during the race he
> comm's trailer was not linked to the internet, which is why he
> did not receive my message immediately.
>
> So I'm a little confused. I can imagine a pure internet set
> of links (and displayed nodes), and I can imagine a set of
> pure radio linked nodes. I am a little confused about what
> seems to be a partial mix of internet or radio nodes. Could
> someone please explain the mechanics of this to me?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Goldweber
> KB3IXO
>
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