[aprssig] RK3KKPK? (CONNECTED Igates?)
Ray Wells
vk2tv at exemail.com.au
Sun Jan 29 18:42:33 EST 2012
Until about 18 months ago I ran a BBS (for 13 years) that included a
node facility that handles ax25, Netrom and fpac* (Rose under Linux). In
addition to 6 radio ports I had axudp links to specified stations in
Australia, the UK, France and the USA that provided inter-node links.
In my experience, a Netrom (or Rose) nodes list may look impressive but
in practice, many of the stations listed are simply not reachable. Fpac
is, arguably, less susceptible than Netrom in this regard but "ghost"
stations still existed.
About 15 years ago I also tried Flexnet but, being the only station
within cooee running Flexnet made it difficult to confirm its routing
capabilities;-( I was very impressed by Flexnet's dynamic channel access
parameters FRACK, MAXFRAME, etc. This worked extremely well.
* fpac was a compatible version of the Rose protocol, with extra routing
capability. It originated with F6FBB (BBS software) and has been
maintained by F6BVP. It is Linux specific. I believe it is better than
Netrom but it is not as universal and must lose some Brownie points on
this point alone.
Ray vk2tv
On 30/01/12 06:15, Bill Vodall wrote:
>>> Come to think about it, have I been asleep? Why couldn't we have an IGate system on 145.01 all over the USA linked into an IGATE system so that everyone's TNC was only a one-hop CONNECT away from any other TNC in the world?
>> It's only been there for 20 some years... Sigh... Unfortunately
>> it's far from what it was back in the good old days...
>>
>> Bill WA7NWP
> Double sigh... My posting yesterday was less than helpful. I've
> been looking but I can't find a good reference summary page even on
> wikipedia. So the still too quick summary here is that there is an
> existing packet radio on Internet network that greatly predates the
> APRS-IS. It is even more complicated to use and less useful and
> interesting in these days of megabyte point and click activity. It
> can be accessed by legacy connected mode packet if there's a
> gateway/node/bbs in the local area or on the Internet by many
> applications such as BPQ32, JNOS, XROUTER or the packet networking
> built into Linux or AGWPE software.
>
> This system could be used for APRS style UI data but it would take
> some tweaking... I believe that's what Andre is working on now.
>
> I'll post more info when I find it.
>
> 73
> Bill - WA7NWP
>
> PS. Here's some representative lists of Nodes from the Packet
> Internet system. As can be seen there are callsigns from around the
> world represented:
>
> n
> NWPBPQ:WA7NWP-10} Nodes:
> N0KFQ AUBURN:W2QYT-5 AUXBBS:W7AUX-7 AUXBPQ:W7AUX-8
> AUXCHT:W7AUX-11 AUXRMS:W7AUX-10 BBSMPF:VE1MPF BBSUIL:VE3UIL-3
> CANPMS:K2CAN-4 CHAT:VE9MPF-2 CHTMPF:VE9MPF-11 DXC:VE9SC
> EWA1:EWA FGRLKS:K2CAN-3 MOBRA:KB0WSA-6 MPFMTN:VE9MPF-7
> NWPBBS:WA7NWP-1 NWPCHT:WA7NWP-3 RMS:VE9SC-10 SFALLS:VE3UIL-7
> SFSBBS:VE3UIL-1 SFSCHT:VE3UIL-11 SFSDX:VE3UIL-5 SFSRMS:VE3UIL-10
> WNYDX:K2CAN-2
> c auburn
> NWPBPQ:WA7NWP-10} Connected to AUBURN:W2QYT-5
> i
> AUBURN:W2QYT-5} Commands:
> DX (Fingerlakes DX Cluster)
> FLEX (FlexNet RF Network via W2QYT)
> I(nfo) L(inks) MH(eard [Port #]) N(odes) P(orts) Q(uit)
> R(outes) ST(atus) U(sers) V(ersion)
>
> The BPQ Switch is located at the W2QYT QTH
> in Auburn, New York and ties the CNY FlexNet
> RF network into the WNY one via AXIP.
> All other services are located at the
> K2CAN QTH in Bristol,NY
> and the KB2FAF QTH in Cortland, NY.
>
> For more Info, Questions or Comments contact:
> Sysop - W2QYT via Email: olwindy2 at gmail.com
> n
> AUBURN:W2QYT-5} Nodes:
> BAUBBS:ZL2BAU BAUCHT:ZL2BAU-8 BAUNOD:ZL2BAU-3 BAUPMS:ZL2BAU-2
> BBSJOA:N4JOA-1 BBSUIL:VE3UIL-3 CANPMS:K2CAN-4 CMHNET:KB8UVN-4
> DLLBBS:K2DLL-4 DLLDXC:K2DLL-5 DLLFLX:K2DLL-2 DLLRMS:K2DLL-10
> DXAR:N9PMO-6 FAIRPT:KB2VZS-9 FGRLKS:K2CAN-3 FLXFPT:KB2VZS-14
> FPTCPU:KB2VZS-12 JOABBS:N4JOA JOABPQ:N4JOA-3 JOACHT:N4JOA-11
> NCT:K1YON-3 NCTBBS:K1YON-4 NCTFLX:K1YON-2 NCTRMS:K1YON-10
> NNY:K2DLL-3 NWPBPQ:WA7NWP-10 NWPCHT:WA7NWP-3 PMOBBS:N9PMO-1
> PMOCHT:N9PMO-11 PMORMS:N9PMO-10 PUKKIE:ZL4AX-10 RDXA:KB2VZS-13
> SFALLS:VE3UIL-7 SFSBBS:VE3UIL-1 SFSCHT:VE3UIL-11 SFSDX:VE3UIL-5
> SFSRMS:VE3UIL-10 SKYLNE:KB2FAF STECAT:VE2PKT-4 WAINOD:ZL2BAU-5
> WIBBS:N9PMO WIRAC:N9PMO-2 WNYDX:K2CAN-2
> c nct
>
> AUBURN:W2QYT-5} Nodes:
> BAUBBS:ZL2BAU BAUCHT:ZL2BAU-8 BAUNOD:ZL2BAU-3 BAUPMS:ZL2BAU-2
> BBSJOA:N4JOA-1 BBSUIL:VE3UIL-3 CANPMS:K2CAN-4 CMHNET:KB8UVN-4
> DLLBBS:K2DLL-4 DLLDXC:K2DLL-5 DLLFLX:K2DLL-2 DLLRMS:K2DLL-10
> DXAR:N9PMO-6 EBBBS:KB2VLX-4 EBDXC:N2NSA-5 EBFLX:KB2VLX-2
> EBRMS:N2NSA-10 FAIRPT:KB2VZS-9 FGRLKS:K2CAN-3 FLXFPT:KB2VZS-14
> FPTCPU:KB2VZS-12 JOABBS:N4JOA JOABPQ:N4JOA-3 JOACHT:N4JOA-11
> NNY:K2DLL-3 NWPBPQ:WA7NWP-10 NWPCHT:WA7NWP-3 NYC:N2NSA-3
> PMOBBS:N9PMO-1 PMOCHT:N9PMO-11 PMORMS:N9PMO-10 PUKKIE:ZL4AX-10
> RDXA:KB2VZS-13 SFALLS:VE3UIL-7 SFSBBS:VE3UIL-1 SFSCHT:VE3UIL-11
> SFSDX:VE3UIL-5 SFSRMS:VE3UIL-10 SKYLNE:KB2FAF STECAT:VE2PKT-4
> WAINOD:ZL2BAU-5 WIBBS:N9PMO WIRAC:N9PMO-2 WNYDX:K2CAN-2
> c joabpq
> AUBURN:W2QYT-5} Connected to JOABPQ:N4JOA-3
> Welcome to N4JOA's BPQ Internet<-> Packet Switch
> ? gives a list of commands.
> n
> JOABPQ:N4JOA-3} Nodes:
> PD4U-12 ##TEMP:ZL2UFW-3 #HDMNO:VK7HDM-14 #NCNOD:WE4NC-14
> #RDXA2:KB2VZS-7 #WANPT:KB2VZS-15 A6NODE:PE1SDE-10 AK:ZL2AQY-1
> AKLDXC:ZL2AQY-10 AKXR:ZL2AQY-4 AKXR32:ZL2AQY-8 AKXRPM:ZL2AQY-2
> ARCEOC:W4MIN-14 ATP14:KF4ATP-14 AUBURN:W2QYT-5 BAUBBS:ZL2BAU
> BAUCHT:ZL2BAU-8 BAUNOD:ZL2BAU-3 BAUPMS:ZL2BAU-2 BBGATE:AA6HF-4
> BBSATP:KF4ATP-1 BBSBGH:W4BGH-1 BBSJOA:N4JOA-1 BBSKPG:VE3KPG-1
> BBSMPF:VE1MPF BBSUIL:VE3UIL-3 BGH14:W4BGH-14 BGHPLG:W4BGH-6
> BLOX:G0CNG-8 BPQ:GM8BPQ-2 BPQCHT:GM8BPQ-4 BPQPMS:G8BPQ
> BPQSNK:PI1SNK-10 CANPMS:K2CAN-4 CHAT:VE9MPF-2 CHTBAU:ZL2BAU-11
> CHTMPF:VE9MPF-11 CHTPKT:VE2PKT-8 CIT03:K4GBB-14 CMHNET:KB8UVN-4
> COWBBS:GB7COW COWCHT:GB7COW-8 COWPMS:GB7COW-2 CRCHAT:GB7CIP-5
> DABBBS:N4ZKF-4 DABDXC:N4ZKF-9 DABFLA:N4ZKF-5 DEVON:GB7COW-3
> DFWBBS:KC5CNT DFWBPQ:KC5CNT-2 DJT14:KP4DJT-14 DLLBBS:K2DLL-4
> DLLDXC:K2DLL-5 DLLFLX:K2DLL-2 DLLRMS:K2DLL-10 DOTFBB:VK2DOT
> DOTXR:VK2DOT-1 DOTXRC:VK2DOT-12 DOTXS:VK2DOT-3 DXAR:N9PMO-6
> DXC:VE9SC DXCC:N9PMO-4 DXCPKT:VE2PKT-9 DXZKF:N4ZKF
> EBBBS:KB2VLX-4 EBDXC:N2NSA-5 EBFLX:KB2VLX-2 EBRMS:N2NSA-10
> FAIRPT:KB2VZS-9 FGRLKS:K2CAN-3 FLXFPT:KB2VZS-14 FPTCPU:KB2VZS-12
> GALA:GM7LUN GBBBBS:K4GBB HAMCHT:ZL1PK-8 HAMNOD:ZL1PK-1
> HART:G7VJA-5 HDMNOD:VK7HDM-9 IN105:N9LYA-7 INBBS:N9LYA
> INCHAT:K9BBS-14 INDXC:K9BBS-5 INRMS:K9BBS-10 JOABBS:N4JOA
> JOACHT:N4JOA-11 JOADX:N4JOA-5 JOADXC:N4JOA-7 KAPNOD:ZL2ARN-1
> KDRBBS:GB7PZT KDRCHT:G8PZT-8 KIDDER:G8PZT MACNET:SV2AMK-12
> MAXBBS:GB7MAX MNBPQ:AE5E-14 MNDX:AE5E MNQBBS:AE5E-3
> MNQCHT:AE5E-6 MOUS:NOCALL MPFMTN:VE9MPF-7 NDEVON:GB7COW-5
> NETHI:GM3YEW-4 NETHY:GM3YEW-3 NNY:K2DLL-3 NWPBPQ:WA7NWP-10
> NWPCHT:WA7NWP-3 NYC:N2NSA-3 PERCHT:GM3YEW-1 PETERB:VE3KPG-2
> PKPMS:ZL1PK-2 PMOBBS:N9PMO-1 PMOCHT:N9PMO-11 PMORMS:N9PMO-10
> POLNET:SR1DSZ PUKKIE:ZL4AX-10 RDXA:KB2VZS-13 RMS:VE9SC-10
> RRGW1:N5HC-14 SFALLS:VE3UIL-7 SFSBBS:VE3UIL-1 SFSCHT:VE3UIL-11
> SFSDX:VE3UIL-5 SFSPMS:VE3UIL-2 SFSRMS:VE3UIL-10 SFXCHT:VE3UIL-8
> SFXR32:VE3UIL-6 SHOPX:G0RQL-5 SINC:N7ZEF-1 SKYLNE:KB2FAF
> SNKCHT:PI1SNK-8 STECAT:VE2PKT-4 VAM14:KI4VAM-14 VJAPMS:G7VJA-2
> VRABBS:VE5VRA VRANOD:VE5VRA-14 VRF14:KA1VRF-14 WAIBBS:ZL2BAU-4
> WAINOD:ZL2BAU-5 WELL3:WB4MOZ-3 WIBBS:N9PMO WIRAC:N9PMO-2
> WNYDX:K2CAN-2 WSHTON:KA7U-12 WYO:N7ZEF-4 X-PKT:VE2PKT-3
> XAPE:PI1APE XHSD:PI1HSD XINET:SV2XI-12 XRCHT:PI1SNK-9
> XR_DOS:PI1SNK-11 XTAS:VK7HDM-7 YEWDXC:GM3YEW-6 YEWXP:GB7YEW
> YKS:GB7YKS-1 YKSMBX:GB7YKS YRK:GB7YK YVRASS:VE7ASS-7
> ZLDXC:ZL2ARN-10 a7node:PI1SNK dotbpq:VK2DOT-4 natlap:PE1NAT-10
>
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