> From: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga at ...> > in the summer when the sun rises in the NE and sets in the NW. I hope you mean SE and SW respectively. No one North of latitude 23.5degreesN (Tropic of Cancer) will ever see a northerly component of the sun's azimuth. See HO-249, or the overhead figure-8 on most globes. 73 es sail fast, dave KO4MI S/V Auspicious