[aprssig] APRS on HF

[Greg D.]

And why do people (appear to) think that the only purpose of the IS system is to log position reports?  When on the road, APRS-IS is also the conduit to email and instant messaging with the Muggle world, via the email/email2 and WinLink systems.  I would think that Messaging and SMS over HF could be quite useful when way off the beaten path, especially if bi-directional.

Greg  KO6TH


> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 06:24:56 +1100
> From: vk2tv at exemail.com.au
> To: aprssig at tapr.org
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS on HF
> 
> So I'm still struggling to see what the point of HF APRS is other than
> allowing people out of range of VHF digis and gateways to get their
> position reports into aprs.fi.
> 
> Does there *really* need to be another reason?
> 
> Ray vk2tv
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/02/11 00:51, Julian, G4ILO wrote:
> > Hi Jim.
> >
> > I don't think I am guilty of this misconception as I am well aware
> > that APRS is intended for giving information about the local situation
> > but that was one of the main reasons for my question because you don't
> > get any *local* information on HF.
> >
> > I have listened on the Net14 frequency a  couple of times but without
> > any mobile traffic I didn't find it very interesting as there wasn't
> > much going on. Once you have sent a greetings message to the other
> > people who are on what else is there to do? There are other ways to
> > have such QSO's on HF. I do use APRS messaging a lot on VHF but that
> > is because I know other local APRS users on VHF so we often have
> > things to say to one another and in our mountainous area we often
> > can't talk direct.
> >
> > In response to Stephen's comment about RX-only gateways breaking
> > messaging that's true but when considering HF I don't think there are
> > many occasions when someone wants to message someone they don't know
> > 1,000 miles away. Most of the messages I have seen have been direct
> > "hello" messages between gateway operators or APRS queries. If someone
> > is driving through an area beaconing on HF the people on VHF APRS in
> > the area probably don't even know he is there, and he won't be
> > receiving any local information over the HF channel (though thanks to
> > the French cross-band gateways he may be receiving information about
> > things hundreds of miles away.)
> >
> > So I'm still struggling to see what the point of HF APRS is other than
> > allowing people out of range of VHF digis and gateways to get their
> > position reports into aprs.fi.
> >
> > Julian, G4ILO
> > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 20 February 2011 12:46, G0JXN Jim<g0jxn.jim at ntlworld.com>  wrote:
> >> Hi Guys
> >>
> >> Julian, there is this misconception that APRS is only suitable to use for
> >> "Position Reporting". Net14 has been setup with the objective of
> >> establishing a World Wide APRS Net for the purpose of communication by the
> >> exchange of messages using APRS. The indication of a station's location is
> >> used only to indicate that the station is QRV. Considerations of tracking
> >> and propagation are secondary.
> >>
> >> If you have not already done so I would suggest that you go to
> >> www.net14.org.uk and read through the Net14 Setup Section which explains the
> >> objective and methods to be use to achieve the objective.
> >>
> >> On a personal note I see that you are not a member of the Yahoo Net14_APRS
> >> Group. If you or anyone else is interested in joining our Group there is a
> >> link on the above website Welcome page.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Jim, G0JXN/MB7UXN
> >>
> >>
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