[aprssig] Another Bootlegger Using APRS As a Commercial AVL System ???

Greg D. ko6th_greg at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 4 15:05:44 EST 2009

Seeing as how Amateur Radio is primarily self-policed, I expect that involving the FCC should be a next / last resort, after (carefully) approaching them and asking how they are identifying themselves.  There are lots of ways that what they are doing can be perfectly legal, and if so, there are lots of things that they can be doing to more properly use the system.  If they are not legal, then either they'll stop, or we can then turn over the case to the FCC.

It's possible, if not likely, that we can turn this into a case where we add another contributing Ham to our ranks, instead leaving someone with a bad impression of our hobby.

Greg  KO6TH

> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:55:30 -0500
> From: k4rjj at bellsouth.net
> To: aprssig at tapr.org
> Subject: Re: [aprssig] Another Bootlegger Using APRS As a Commercial AVL	System ???
> Exactly right Len.  But as far as we go back neither of these drivers 
> have ID'd.  There lies the controversy.  Best way to approch this is for 
> someone to find the truck, log the packets off of RF. snap a few pics of 
> it and open a ticket with FCC enforcement.  If he is a ham it probably 
> would only be a learning experience.  If not then hopefully $7000 per 
> violation would make them change their mind on using this "free tracker"
> Bob B if you are listening.  Why was the callbook never brought into the 
> spec as a "good guy" database?  Just curious.
> Ronny K4RJJ
> Len Revelle wrote:
> > Been following this, though rather sporadically. Please excuse me if I  
> > mention already discussed points.
> >
> >  From what I've read it probably is a trucker. As a short-lived truck  
> > driver and ham I learned there are many hams that drive OTR and use  
> > ham radio while working.
> >
> > AFAIK, so long as one sends a legal identification packet one may use  
> > a tactical call, if you will, in the position packet. Public service  
> > organizations do this all the time. Given that, the truck driver could  
> > easily be legal, just using the ETI-x tactical call while sending a  
> > ham call sign outside the position packet. Does it rub against  
> > convention? Certainly,.. and may even be on the fringe of illegal IF  
> > being used commercially.
> >
> > I would be careful about marching up and introducing yourself without  
> > some tact and knowledge that some do not play by the same rules.
> >
> > Len Revelle N9IJ
> > n9ij at comcast.net
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 4, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Kurt Kochendarfer wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> I see ETI-1 via RF here in Phoenix from time to time.  He usually  
> >> stops
> >> at one of the major truck plazas down on I-10 on his way to/from
> >> California.  I'll have to make a point to stop by and introduce myself
> >> next time he's in town.
> >>
> >> On a positive note, ETI-1 usually transmits with a path of WIDE2-1, so
> >> at least he's a New-N Paradigm compliant bootlegger.
> >>
> >>     
> >
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