Tactical Value? [was: VX-8R Symbol/SSID (WasRe: [aprssig]YaesuVX-8R)]
John B. Leonard, Jr.
w9jbl at comcast.net
Wed May 21 10:29:57 EDT 2008
Bob and all have done a lot of work to standardize the protocol. I can't
see why a company would advertise an "APRS Radio" and violate that protocol.
Also when/if the protocol changes, perhaps the radio should be "flash
updateable".
w9jbl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amateur Radio WB8NUT" <duffy at wb8nut.com>
To: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: Tactical Value? [was: VX-8R Symbol/SSID (WasRe:
[aprssig]YaesuVX-8R)]
> That will also work fine as long as each manufacturer handles the
> messaging display the same way. Since no one has seen the Yaesu messaging
> on the VX8, we don't know if it is the same as the Kenwood at this time.
>
> Duffy
> www.wb8nut.com
>
> John B. Leonard, Jr. wrote:
>> So what's to guarantee that anyone using the "K" does in fact have a KW
>> of that capability? It's common knowledge that a lot of stations
>> sending out info are doing it simply for ego purposes, having no real
>> purpose aside that just to appear on a map to many.
>> Seriously, why not just forget the brand overlay entirely and make an
>> overlay to shout that a station is "message-capable"? There must be a
>> "Q" signal that means that. Use that. And then get that functionality on
>> the APRS wish list, and, perhaps one day, all radios will have that
>> ability. It could happen. Remember, manufacturers had a dreadful record
>> of standardization until the mini-DIN came along. Now most radios have
>> them, with standard pin-outs.
>> w9jbl
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* kc9umr at freqradio.com <mailto:kc9umr at freqradio.com>
>> *To:* aprssig at lists.tapr.org <mailto:aprssig at lists.tapr.org> ;
>> aprssig at lists.tapr.org <mailto:aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:56 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Tactical Value? [was: VX-8R Symbol/SSID (Was Re:
>> [aprssig]YaesuVX-8R)]
>>
>> Could the value be that *SOME* radios have full featured
>> messaging, etc. whereas other radios DO NOT....
>> i.e. if i tell you i have a Kenwood, you know (presumeably) that i
>> can send and receive messages, etc., but if i have an Icom I
>> cannot? This would make the specific radio a worthwhile note, but
>> would it be better to have a special icon for D700's, D710's,
>> VX8's etc. that have these capabilities vs. radios that do not?
>> If i hook a TinyTrak to my V7A, i can run APRS... but that doesn't
>> mean I can send or receive text messages....
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From*: "John B. Leonard, Jr." <w9jbl at comcast.net>
>> *Sent*: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:05 AM
>> *To*: "TAPR APRS Mailing List" <aprssig at lists.tapr.org>
>> *Subject*: Re: Tactical Value? [was: VX-8R Symbol/SSID (Was Re:
>> [aprssig] YaesuVX-8R)]
>>
>> I'll have to disagree with the whole issue of spending any time on
>> this. In
>> a hobby which prides itself on public service, there's no reason to
>> broadcast radio brands on APRS. It shouldn't be important to anybody
>> whether Joe Ham is using a KW, Alinco or Acme radio.
>>
>> Also, to add any overhead to the APRS network to advertise a
>> certain brand
>> of 2 meter radio will unnecessarily burden the system.
>>
>> Our biggest concern should be that everything produced under the APRS
>> concept should work the same - even UI-View (which I use
>> exclusively), even
>> though it seems that it wants to be treated differently than other
>> APRS
>> clients.
>>
>> 73's
>> w9jbl
>>
>> > --- "Greg D." wrote:
>> >> > From: bruninga at usna.edu
>> >
>> >> > In the recent attempt to upgrade the symbol set,
>> >> we added a RADIO symbol with OVERLAYS. Using that
>> >> symbol will allow a K for Kenwood, a Y for Yeasu, an
>> >> I for Icom and A for Alinco, etc...
>> >> >
>> >> > The symbol looks kinda like a radio front panel.
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course it will take a while for all software to
>> >> add this symbol, but it has been defined and ready
>> >> for use.
>> > -----------------------------------------
>> >
>> > What is the tactical or situational-awareness value to
>> > this?
>> >
>> > Ev, W2EV
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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