[aprssig] One more question on POS ambiguity....

Kriss Kliegle kliegle at verizon.net
Sat May 3 22:30:16 EDT 2008


OK, copy all on entering spaces in decimal minutes. Now the other question:
I run APRSDOS (+10 years on same laptop) and I usually keep it on a map of 10 miles approximately around my QTH to greet passerbys on highways, etc. I'm plagued by certain WX stations, digi's, and home stations that show up all around me, but are really located +30 miles away. When I click on them it says "vicinity". After running for a few hours, my screen is covered with these vicinity circles, unitl I hit the space bar. Why do these stations appear as vicinity, but on Findu they show up where they belong?


For example:

N8VIM, a WX APRS station thats 40 miles SW of me almost ALWAYS shows up as a "vicinity WX Station". Is it because he uses a different path for the POS packet vs WX data packet? 
It looks like he's got WIDE2-2 for WX packets, WIDE2-2 for a BEACON packet i.e. (  2008-05-04 01:00:13 UTC: N8VIM>BEACON,WIDE2-1,qAR,N1UEC-1:Pepperell, MA. WX station  ) What good does this packet do? and I can't tell what he's using for the POS packet.
 


>From APRS.FI I got the following raw data w/time stamps to assist w/troubleshooting....

 2008-05-03 23:02:27 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,TRACE,qAo,NE1B:!4240.85N/07133.99W_PHG2230/Pepperell WX station, LT4
 2008-05-03 23:04:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0051003F01B5242D27DCFFF78883000103E8007B0478000F0000
 2008-05-03 23:09:13 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,qAo,KB1MTS:!4240.85N/07133.99W_PHG2230/Pepperell WX station, LT1
 2008-05-03 23:09:14 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW004B003501B6242D27DDFFF78883000103E8007B047D000F0022
 2008-05-03 23:14:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0055000001B4242D27DEFFF88883000103E8007B0482000F0000
 2008-05-03 23:19:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B4242D27DFFFF88883000103E8007B0487000F0000
 2008-05-03 23:24:14 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B4242D27E0FFFD8883000103E8007B048C000F0000
 2008-05-03 23:29:13 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B4242D27DFFFFD8883000103E8007B0491000F0000
 2008-05-03 23:34:13 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B4242D27DEFFFC8883000103E8007B0496000F0000
 2008-05-03 23:39:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,qAo,KB1MTS:!4240.85N/07133.99W_PHG2230/Pepperell WX station, LT1
 2008-05-03 23:39:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B4242D27DEFFFC8883000103E8007B049B000F0000
 2008-05-03 23:44:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B4242D27DEFFFD8883000103E8007B04A0000F0000
 2008-05-03 23:49:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B4242D27DEFFFD8883000103E8007B04A5000F0000
 2008-05-03 23:54:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B3242D27DEFFFB8883000103E8007B04AA000F0000
 2008-05-03 23:59:14 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B2242D27DDFFFB8883000103E8007B04AF000F0000
 2008-05-04 00:01:16 UTC: N8VIM>BEACON,WIDE2-2,K1LVA-1,qAO,K1LVA-1:Pepperell, MA. WX station
 2008-05-04 00:04:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B3242D27DDFFFC8883000103E8007B04B4000F0000
 2008-05-04 00:09:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,qAo,KB1MTS:!4240.85N/07133.99W_PHG2230/Pepperell WX station, LT1
 2008-05-04 00:09:13 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B3242D27DCFFFC8883000103E8007B04B9000F0000
 2008-05-04 00:19:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B3242D27DCFFFB8883000103E8007B04C3000F0000
 2008-05-04 00:24:13 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B3242D27DBFFFC8883000103E8007B04C8000F0000
 2008-05-04 00:29:13 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B3242D27DAFFFC8883000103E8007B04CD000F0000
 2008-05-04 00:32:25 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:!4240.85N/07133.99W_PHG2230/Pepperell WX station, LT3
 2008-05-04 00:34:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B4242D27DAFFFA8883000103E8007B04D2000F0000
 2008-05-04 00:39:14 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,qAo,KB1MTS:!4240.85N/07133.99W_PHG2230/Pepperell WX station, LT1
 2008-05-04 00:39:15 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B3242D27DAFFFA8883000103E8007B04D7000F0000
 2008-05-04 00:44:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B4242D27DAFFFB8883000103E8007B04DC000F0000
 2008-05-04 00:49:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000003E01B4242D27DBFFFB8883000103E8007B04E1000F0000
 2008-05-04 00:54:14 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW002F000001B4242D27DBFFFD8883000103E8007B04E6000F0000
 2008-05-04 00:59:14 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B4242D27DCFFFD8883000103E8007B04EB000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:00:13 UTC: N8VIM>BEACON,WIDE2-1,qAR,N1UEC-1:Pepperell, MA. WX station
 2008-05-04 01:04:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B5242D27DDFFFD8883000103E8007B04F0000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:09:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,qAo,KB1MTS:!4240.85N/07133.99W_PHG2230/Pepperell WX station, LT1
 2008-05-04 01:09:13 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B5242D27DDFFFD8883000103E8007B04F5000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:14:15 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B6242D27DDFFFE8883000103E8007B04FA000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:19:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B6242D27DDFFFE8883000103E8007B04FF000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:24:13 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B6242D27DDFFFE8883000103E8007B0504000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:29:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B5242D27DDFFFE8883000103E8007B0509000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:34:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B6242D27DEFFFE8883000103E8007B050E000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:39:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,qAo,KB1MTS:!4240.85N/07133.99W_PHG2230/Pepperell WX station, LT1
 2008-05-04 01:39:13 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B6242D27DDFFFE8883000103E8007B0513000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:44:15 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B7242D27DCFFFF8883000103E8007B0518000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:49:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B6242D27DDFFFF8883000103E8007B051D000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:54:13 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B6242D27DCFFFF8883000103E8007B0522000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:59:14 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B7242D27DBFFFF8883000103E8007B0527000F0000
 2008-05-04 01:59:16 UTC: N8VIM>BEACON,KA1GJU-3,W1PIG,WIDE2*,qAo,K1PIG:Pepperell, MA. WX station
 2008-05-04 02:02:31 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,TRACE,qAo,NE1B:!4240.85N/07133.99W_PHG2230/Pepperell WX station, LT4
 2008-05-04 02:04:13 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,NE1B:$ULTW0000000001B8242D27DBFFFF8883000103E8007B052C000F0000
 2008-05-04 02:09:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,qAo,KB1MTS:!4240.85N/07133.99W_PHG2230/Pepperell WX station, LT1
 2008-05-04 02:14:12 UTC: N8VIM>APRS,WIDE2-2,qAo,KB1MTS:$ULTW0000000001B7242D27D9FFF98883000103E8007B0536000F0000
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